No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home. Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.
Why does this feel so forced and astroturfed on this site and yet has essentially no traction
Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
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Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#112No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home. Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.
Interesting. So you're creating your bubble just because you don't want anyone challenging your opinions. Let's see how that goes a year from now.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#113Alternative title: “Twitter ex CEO announces half-baked and social signalling fuelled, competitor product to entice as many as possible to leave Twitter and help line his pockets”
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Bleh, I find your position is boring because it's so easily shown to be unworkable. Imagine there have a platform run as you suggest and I don't like what you're saying on it: I flood you and anyone that supports you with not-quite-illegal abuse, misinformation, non-sense, spam, false flag support from people with deplorable views. Copy-cats of you that take your positions but weakly argued or with a touch of added g…
There are quite a few websites with little or no moderation working just fine, like 4chan. But I honestly don't understand this whole argument. Twitter is a social network, you just need to only receive messages from your network or "friends of a friend". You can't have both a global network and get offended given the multitude of opinions and laws in the world. The problem seems to be less that people are offended b…
Working fine at doing what? Emulating a thousand typing monkeys? Arguing that 4chan has some form of working discourse and rherefore everything should be like it is like arguing there is still some message at the end in the childrens game "silent mail" and therefore it should replace all methods of communication.
Don't get me wrong, there probably even is some sort of use in the existence of something like 4chan (I bet some sociology doctorate has written about the function of the platform for certain demographic parts of the population for example).
But there is probably a reason why you are discussion this topic here on HN instead of over there. And if I guess, this reason has all to do with you being able to have better, cleverer and more informed discussion here, than over there and is not at all hindered by the fact that the HN moderation would cut your voice off if you just pressed the right (wrong) buttons.
Some form of moderation is always better for discussion than none at all, unless you are making some sort of social experiment.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#115No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home. Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.
Mastodon is only free of issues because the masses haven't found it yet. Give it a few years and it'll be the same as or worse than twitter, given Mastodon's lack of moderation.
Having a process that distributes the load of moderation is better, IMNHO, than piling all that work on underpaid people.
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No centralization, no server.
"This, and other things CEOs say while smoking crack." Computer code still runs on CPUs and not the aether. If its accepting connections from other computers it is the server in the client/server model. If it's on your desktop, it just typically means it doesn't have ECC memory and a battery backup dropping the reliability even further. Decentralized architectures have all kinds of fun and complicated failure modes,…
Usenet, IRC, email - discussion, conversation, mail - all worked fine for decades on the old, low speed internet. What exactly are we getting in exchange for all this high-availability nonsense anyways?
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Interesting. So you're creating your bubble just because you don't want anyone challenging your opinions. Let's see how that goes a year from now.
What about me, who never used Twitter and wont use this either? Did I make a bubble because I don't want people to challenge my opinions? How many tweets do I need to read a day until I have sufficiently challenged my opinions?
I was just stating that if twitter was bad before, these new alternatives will be 10x worse since they will create truly silos and radicalize even more people. To each their own.
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What about me, who never used Twitter and wont use this either? Did I make a bubble because I don't want people to challenge my opinions? How many tweets do I need to read a day until I have sufficiently challenged my opinions?
What? If you've never used twitter, why do you even care now? If you use ig, reddit, fb, that's ok. If you like to have conversations with people in person, that's ok too. I just don't understand why people are worked out by Elon buying twitter. If you think twitter is going to become more of a cesspool, then by all means use mastodom, gettr, truth social, etc... I was just stating that if twitter was bad before, the…
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> We use DIDs for identity but presently no blockchain DID methods. I notice that the documentation[0] says: "We introduced DID Placeholder because we weren't totally satisfied with any of the existing DID methods. ... We cheekily titled the method "Placeholder", because we don't want it to stick around. We're actively hoping to replace it with something less centralized. We expect a method to emerge that fits the bi…
Grant us a little leeway: it all takes time. The DID PLC registry is a placeholder because what we actually want is akin to a ICAN-style governance over it. When we talk about a “permissioned consortium” we mean as opposed to a “permissionless blockchain.” It’s not that we haven’t solved the mechanics; it’s that the right solution is a people/org problem and not a computing problem. We include DID Web as an option in…
I think I am still uneasy, though, about the idea of hoping for a global governance structure (with unknown accountability and financial controls) to come along and start granting (and revoking) people their online identities.
I just feel like the professor in the Far Side cartoon pointing to the blackboard and saying "I think you should be more explicit here in step two"[0], but miracles happen every day, and important breakthroughs can take years of hard work before the answer is clear. Let's hope that you don't get stuck with a system that you're not happy with.
[0] https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a3b19e99fad0ee2c1d663...
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
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"This, and other things CEOs say while smoking crack." Computer code still runs on CPUs and not the aether. If its accepting connections from other computers it is the server in the client/server model. If it's on your desktop, it just typically means it doesn't have ECC memory and a battery backup dropping the reliability even further. Decentralized architectures have all kinds of fun and complicated failure modes,…
High speed and low latency are overvalued at the moment, because they are so important to the functioning of the capitalist internet. Usenet, IRC, email - discussion, conversation, mail - all worked fine for decades on the old, low speed internet. What exactly are we getting in exchange for all this high-availability nonsense anyways?
So yea, we're the old men yelling at clouds, and the kids have gone on to a ADHD fueled media filled flashing light fest and they don't plan on coming back.