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What you can’t imagine clearly, you value less

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Re: What you can’t imagine clearly, you value less

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I am an aphant, I can not imagine anything. While I can appreciate to have a good income and always had good paying jobs, I was never really interested in making a career and becoming filthy rich. Possibly because I can not imagine myself in this situation. On the other hand I was always better then others on making long term strategic plans. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

Before this starts a huge debate about what is possible and what is not for humans, I would like to link this:

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/17/what-universal-human-e...

Re: What you can’t imagine clearly, you value less

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You got it backwards here. The heart of the art is in the intra-personal conflicts and human aspect observations, and the skeleton is the plot. The background is just (literally) a backdrop. Which is why you can set Romeo and Juliet in 20th century America, or Antigone in space - as many have done, and the heart of the work is still there just fine.

> The heart of the art is in the intra-personal conflicts and human aspect observations, and the skeleton is the plot. Precisely what makes it art is the background though. > The background is just (literally) a backdrop. Which is why you can set Romeo and Juliet in 20th century America, or Antigone in space - as many have done, and the heart of the work is still there just fine. Yeah, and I even told you what the he…

>Precisely what makes it art is the background though.

No, that's just the decoration on the dish that is art. The nutritional value and the test is in the core. The artisty is in the expression and observation and relatedness, not in the the backdrop.

Re: What you can’t imagine clearly, you value less

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> Why shouldn't the surgeon kill a healthy person to save 5 others with his organs?". Duh, because the surgeon doesn't know what's going to happen and there's a high chance he's going to end up with 6 corpses, plus his own when anybody fins out. You really think it’s this, and not that the surgeon doesn’t want to kill people?

Well there you go, I'm glad you don't need convincing that "killing" and "letting people die by not giving them fresh organs" are not the same thing at all.

Can’t tell if sarcasm

Re: What you can’t imagine clearly, you value less

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I am an aphant, I can not imagine anything. While I can appreciate to have a good income and always had good paying jobs, I was never really interested in making a career and becoming filthy rich. Possibly because I can not imagine myself in this situation. On the other hand I was always better then others on making long term strategic plans. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

I'm so sick of hearing this. You can imagine things. That's not even what Aphantasia is.

Why are you sick of it? Some people can't 'imagine' at all.

The clue is in the name. Just because you can conceptualise without images doesn't mean you can imagine. Imagination without images is not imagination by definition. Its totally what aphantasia is.

There's no picture, there's just an abstracted idea.

Re: What you can’t imagine clearly, you value less

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As a fellow T1 diabetic, I fully agree. I'd much rather have no diabetes and full-fat depression (assuming both conditions can be properly medicated) than the other way round - and I already have low-fat depression thanks to decades of untreated ADHD. A hypoglycemic "attack" can kill silently in the middle of the night. And trust me, I have way more frequent "suicidal" thoughts than hypos on an average day (quotes be…

Hugs to you. T1 diabetes is so awful and hard. The daily burden is something non diabetics just can never fully understand. It's something that's with you always. We understand the burden of living on the knife's edge of life and death better than almost anyone.

Thank you, hugs to you too :)
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