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Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening.

Why would I imagine that? This kind of thing happens from time to time with gas cars. Example (picked lazily and randomly): https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/car-erupts-in-flames-n...

In some respects, Lithium Ion fires are harder to manage, but they also seem to happen less frequently.

Maybe don't jump to conclusions based upon ~10 fires in vehicles flooded by saltwater?

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening. Why would I imagine that? This kind of thing happens from time to time with gas cars. Example (picked lazily and randomly): https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/car-erupts-in-flames-n... In some resp…

> but they also seem to happen less frequently.

Do they? Even comparing only other new cars? I just don’t trust the claims so far.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening. Why would I imagine that? This kind of thing happens from time to time with gas cars. Example (picked lazily and randomly): https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/car-erupts-in-flames-n... In some resp…

~10? How about ONE? For all the reporting, there really doesn't seem to be a spate of Tesla's blowing up in the wake of Ian. There's been three pictures of that one white Model Y, and it looks mostly intact. If there were really more than one incident I'd expect, well, more pictures and additional reports. If this is really actually a problem we can march with pitchforks to Tesla's HQ together, but given the tens of thousands of them that must have been in Florida when the storm hit, this seems like the media just has an axe to grind.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening.

sure, sure, the snow in which enough people drive for there to be a rush hour is totally comparable to a hurricane.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening. Why would I imagine that? This kind of thing happens from time to time with gas cars. Example (picked lazily and randomly): https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/car-erupts-in-flames-n... In some resp…

> but they also seem to happen less frequently. Do they? Even comparing only other new cars? I just don’t trust the claims so far.

It definitely happens much more frequently. So frequently that it doesn’t get articles written about it. It’s just not news. I saw a newer gas pick-up’s entire engine on fire and spilling spilling fire onto the road in the pouring rain just a week ago.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening. Why would I imagine that? This kind of thing happens from time to time with gas cars. Example (picked lazily and randomly): https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/car-erupts-in-flames-n... In some resp…

> but they also seem to happen less frequently. Do they? Even comparing only other new cars? I just don’t trust the claims so far.

Anecdotal but on my drive home I regularly see car-b-ques of ICE cars. Not so many EVs.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> Try now to imagine an electrically driven vehicle catching fire during Christmas shopping season in mid-December in midtown Manhattan in front of Macy’s department store during rush hour at six o’clock in the evening. sure, sure, the snow in which enough people drive for there to be a rush hour is totally comparable to a hurricane.

Ya exactly! I’d walk or take the train? Maybe LA and sunset.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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> but they also seem to happen less frequently. Do they? Even comparing only other new cars? I just don’t trust the claims so far.

Anecdotal but on my drive home I regularly see car-b-ques of ICE cars. Not so many EVs.

There is a sampling bias there though: most cars are still ICE, so if they caught fire at the same rate you would expect the same observation.

Re: Hurricane Ian and EV Fires

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but they also seem to happen less frequently. Do they? Even comparing only other new cars? I just don’t trust the claims so far.

It definitely happens much more frequently. So frequently that it doesn’t get articles written about it. It’s just not news. I saw a newer gas pick-up’s entire engine on fire and spilling spilling fire onto the road in the pouring rain just a week ago.

A couple points

EVs are novel so anything happening with them is going to get more coverage even if ICE have the same problem.

There are FAR more ICE cars on the road than EVs so we have to adjust for that in figuring out the rate one would burst into flames.

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