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Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

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I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…

If the speech is illegal in whatever jurisdictions apply, then remove it; otherwise, it should stay. Yes, even trolling and slurs. If a platform emulating the public square goes beyond what is legal, it ceases to be a neutral platform and inevitably becomes a vehicle for propaganda. I realize that means propaganda could be spread by the users, but I'd rather than than the platform and users spreading it. The real que…

Elon?

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#42
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Spam is 100% legal in all jurisdictions, so your legal free speech plan sounds like a total hellscape.

There are definitely laws against spam

Are there laws against spam that aren't narrowly defined as email or phone spam? I'm not aware of laws against forum/wiki/social media spam. The US postal service is largely spam-funded, as is Canada Post.

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#43
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spam is 100% legal in all jurisdictions, so your legal free speech plan sounds like a total hellscape.

There are definitely laws against spam

> are definitely laws against spam

Almost none of them in competent jurisdictions even attempt to define spam with an eye towards balancing against free speech.

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#44

> closer inspection reveals that the underlying technology will not be purely blockchain-based. “I’m confident in our decision not to put social media content on a blockchain,” tweeted Bluesky CEO Jay Graber. “It’s blockchain independent and optional." What does it mean to be blockchain optional?

Amazing Jack signed off on this, being so blockchain obsessed that he is.

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#45

I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…

> It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up.

Many crypto scam startups have made bank with this less efficient strategy. Have you seen all the companies selling banks on internal proof of work blockchains and stuff?

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#46

I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…

> Centralization came out of pragmatism Sort of? Centralization is more profitable and easier than building new open internet protocols and formats.

Those are certainly more pragmatic than ideological concerns, which is the point GP was making.

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#47

I feel like he should have taken a long holiday. Not being rude or anything, but a new social network needs thorough thinking. For instance everywhere i read about the topic on casual forums, someone mentions myspace. Maybe it is time that such a network is built - fun customisations and neutral content.

"The thing you have to ask yourself ... is why the content was neutral ... do you feel lucky, punk?"

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#48
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No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home. Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.

Why does this feel so forced and astroturfed on this site and yet has essentially no traction

Musk's idea is to piss off 10% of the left and right of the spectrum and keep the middle 80% happy.

The left 10% will hang out on Mastodon or Fediverse, the right 10% will go on Gab or whatever. I think what's happenning is great for all. You do you™.

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#49

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Mastodon is only free of issues because the masses haven't found it yet. Give it a few years and it'll be the same as or worse than twitter, given Mastodon's lack of moderation.

> Give it a few years and it'll be the same as or worse than twitter, given Mastodon's lack of moderation. Why is lack of moderation a problem on Mastodon? Twitter pushes content from random users you don't follow, that creates a responsibility to moderate (plus they need to keep the advertisers happy). The Mastodon timeline is direct follows. If I see some stuff I don't like, I can talk with that person or simply un…

> Twitter pushes content from random users you don't follow

and the TweakNewTwitter browser add-on rejects it, along with "trending" and all the rest. Add in ublock origin and you've pretty much got Twitter the way I thought it should be.

Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does this feel so forced and astroturfed on this site and yet has essentially no traction

Musk's idea is to piss off 10% of the left and right of the spectrum and keep the middle 80% happy. The left 10% will hang out on Mastodon or Fediverse, the right 10% will go on Gab or whatever. I think what's happenning is great for all. You do you™.

Works for me. Getting these clowns off the main sites sounds wonderful.
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