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Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
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#22I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…
Sort of? Centralization is more profitable and easier than building new open internet protocols and formats.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the speech is illegal in whatever jurisdictions apply, then remove it; otherwise, it should stay. Yes, even trolling and slurs. If a platform emulating the public square goes beyond what is legal, it ceases to be a neutral platform and inevitably becomes a vehicle for propaganda. I realize that means propaganda could be spread by the users, but I'd rather than than the platform and users spreading it. The real que…
Spam is 100% legal in all jurisdictions, so your legal free speech plan sounds like a total hellscape.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#24So he created a Mastodon clone?
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spam is 100% legal in all jurisdictions, so your legal free speech plan sounds like a total hellscape.
Probably not remotely practical, but I wonder what an online equivalent to the "do not call" list would look like.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#26So he created a Mastodon clone?
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#27(EDIT: No it's not) This is the scuttlebutt protocol to anyone wondering. First mentioned on HN many years ago. I'm very into this stuff. I was into scuttlebutt long before bluesky was announced even. But the problem I see is that with ActivityPub I already have a whole ecosystem of software and libraries, while with ssbc I have no idea where to even start. When ssbc was first announced I tried using it briefly but i…
> This is the scuttlebutt protocol to anyone wondering. Bluesky is not related to secure scuttlebutt, they are working on a new protocol currently called "AT Protocol". https://atproto.com ATP is mainly federated so a bit closer to mastodon/matrix than SSB which is quite a bit more decentralized iirc. Do check out their docs, it's a work in progress but should give you a better insight to what they're doing.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#28No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home. Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.
Mastodon is only free of issues because the masses haven't found it yet. Give it a few years and it'll be the same as or worse than twitter, given Mastodon's lack of moderation.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#29I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…
Decentralization does help a lot here. The X, Y and Z server owners don’t have to agree or coordinate. The fact that they will disagree on their policies is part of the answer. There won’t be a one-size-fits-all policy. Different servers will try different things and ideas will be shared about what works and what doesn’t.
Z server can choose to allow saying mean things and X and Y server can block and ignore posts from Z.
Some servers may have a political bias one way or the other and individuals can choose which to join and pay attention to.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#30No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home. Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.
Mastodon is only free of issues because the masses haven't found it yet. Give it a few years and it'll be the same as or worse than twitter, given Mastodon's lack of moderation.
How will it be the same or worse? Which member of it?
Mastodon is simply a social federation enabling software; it's similarly abstract to refer to Twitter's software infrastructure.