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Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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User-wise Facebook seems to be doing fine: > One area where Meta showed promise was in adding to Facebook’s massive user base > Facebook has 2.93 billion monthly active users. 1.98 billion daily active users. That was up from 1.97 billion three months ago. > Facebook has 264 million monthly active users in the United States and Canada alone. The majority of Facebook’s users belong to the 25 to 34 age group. > Twitter…

Good to see you finally backing up your claims with sources. The first source is paywalled though. Yes user-wise they do seem to be doing fine, but I'd like to know where the growth is happening. That's important. The 2nd source has some interesting demographics, but unfortunately doesn't include growth which would be the most interesting to me. Very interesting that their largest user base by far is now in India, wh…

> doesn't mean that folks on HN who threatened to quit FB didn't actually go ahead and do that.

Of course it doesn't? Who cares. I deleted my account too but that doesn't mean much.

I'm highly skeptical this outrage cycle will go on for long enough to seriously impact their userbase. Absent a proper competitor to Twitter. I've been part of enough internet boycotts of them to be cynical about their odds.

Also I'm not sure why you're having trouble finding Facebook data... just google it if you care so much about dismissing their obvious dominance. And WSJ paywall is easily bypassable.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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The same kind of posts happened when zuck changed the private policy of whatsaap a few months ago, everyone was migrating to Signal. Who uses signal now?

The sad thing is that I jumped to Matrix (with Element) and waited for the influx; 2 people moved. The rest either stayed on WhatsApp or moved to Telegram (to be fair, almost all my contacts, including my mother, actually did move to Telegram from WhatsApp). No signal, no matrix. Matrix is nice in theory but Element is not very nice and the messing around with keys is not something most people will understand. This n…

> This is a question to, mostly, Element developers really

o/

We’re currently rebuilding Element on mobile (and native desktop apps) so it behaves much more like Telegram or similar, built on matrix-rust-sdk. The codename is currently Element X, but it will shortlyish replace Element proper.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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>But one thing he obviously does frequently is fix broken shit, then try again if that fails. This works in small starting companies not in a Behemoth like Twitter. And I doubt he fixed so much. The traffic problems he claimed to fix with the Boring Company are nowhere near fixed, same with FSD.

> And I doubt he fixed so much. Do you think manufacturing cars and rockets happens without a lot of course correction, pun intended?

That are things he broke by his previous decisions.

Fixing traffic or social media is a whole different level.

It's like fixing full autonomous driving. Still didn't happen and he is fixing it quite some time.

Social media is even harder.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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I disagree. It was a wide gamut, not just one political ideology. Just the commentary in the last week shows it was across the board. Fox News personalities to AOC to Steven King to a few other Hollywood celebs bitching about it. Wide range of political leaning, common thread…all celebrities.

They're not "bitching about" more people being verified, they're "bitching about" the wanton, clueless vandalism of the verification system.

All I see is a bunch of wealthy and famous folks whining that their little badge of exclusivity has become easily obtainable by the masses for the price of a latte.

Boo hoo. Your little blue badge of elitism is now available to the proles, how will you ever cope with such uppityness?

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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> Demanding to provide data that is clearly not publicly available You claimed to know such data. It's clear you haven't been debating in good faith from the point you made that claim. > as it is beyond clear that this figure was above zero. No it's not. I provided evidence that he may in fact drive away advertisers. > So blocking him was against the commercial interests of the platform. That's not how it works. Bloc…

> You claimed to know such data. Can you please give a link to the message where I claimed to know such data?

Sure:

> Trump provided a lot of engagement and popularity to the platform, so banning him was igealogy-driven and was very much against their business interests.

You either have those engagement numbers or you don't. Which is it?

You either know how much advertising revenue he generated -or- how much he drove away. Or you don't.

You either have evidence that banning him was against their business interests or you are just guessing. I don't think you have those numbers. You suggested Elon Musk might have those numbers. So it's pretty clear you yourself don't have the internal business numbers that would be used to make those decisions.

Lacking sources to back up your claims, then you were arguing in bad faith. But I'm open minded. Feel free to back up that claim with actual evidence.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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> literal hours of continuous footage Where? Can you provide a source?

The source is Project Veritas. Why not go to their website and take a look? There have been a whole bunch of cases where they got Twitter staff on record to say damning things. And no, it's not out of context. The statements are in context and speak for themselves. You can watch the videos or listen to the recordings to hear it for yourself. If you want to argue this source isn't valid, you need to prove it, because…

> Why not go to their website and take a look?

Sure. Given links I'll do that. I just did right now since you are the first person to actually provide links.

The claim was:

> literal hours of continuous footage

None of the links you provided come even close to that claim. They are FULL of cuts. Many of them don't even include the question that was asked!

And even you took quotes out of context. The quote "Twitter does not believe in free speech" was qualified by a followup that free speech allows bullying and that Twitter does not believe in bullying because it's bad for business! Which is totally reasonable if you are an advertising platform.

Can you provide what I asked for? The source to "literal hours of continuous footage"?

Also, please stop giving quotes to your links. You've done exactly what people already claimed: taken things out of context to try to make them look worse than they really are. Folks can watch uncut videos themselves and make up their own minds. If these "literal hours of continuous footage" actually even exist.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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> I don't think anyone on the accessibility team was interviewed So you don't have a source to back up your claim. > Banning people for political speech is an accessibility issue It is not. [1]. You don't get to widen the definition of things to make them so broad as to include your claim. Accessibility is the design of products, devices, services, vehicles, or environments so as to be usable by people with disabilit…

> So you don't have a source to back up your claim. I do. The stated political beliefs of the people being interviewed & their claim that many @ Twitter shared their beliefs. Also the actions of the company. > It is not. [1]. You don't get to widen the definition of things to make them so broad as to include your claim. It is. If someone is banned from the site, the site is not accessible to that person. If people ar…

> I do. The stated political beliefs of the people being interviewed & their claim that many @ Twitter shared their beliefs

You do not have a source. Guilt by association is not a source. You're just making a guess and you should be called out for claiming a guess is an actual source.

> If someone is banned from the site, the site is not accessible to that person.

Sure, by definition you can't access a site you are banned from. But that's not what accessibility is and that is not what the accessibility department was working on.

> If people are being banned for political speech, then it certainly violates any form of platform neutrality.

Yes it does violate any form of platform neutrality. That still has nothing to do with the actual definition of what accessibility includes.

> Banning someone for exercising their free speech is anti-accessibility.

That's absurd. Accessibility already has a definition and it's quite specific: it's about disabled people. You are free to re-define words, but folks are also free to ignore your personal definitions.

> Freedom of Speech is a human right which Twitter has been willfully violating.

I don't agree with you that they have been violating anyone's free speech but what does this have to do with your original claim that "the accessibility team acted as political speech commissars"?

Where is your actual evidence of the accessibility team doing that? Actual evidence would not include your guesses or guilt by association.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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I've never been good at mob behavior or just doing what I'm told.

I'm staying on Twitter until I see if it's significantly better or worse. IMHO, the current "I'm leaving" fad seems to be somewhat political, and I don't think political boycotts are constructive.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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“How much chaos” The only “chaos” I’m aware of is the /b/ N**r spam invasion that occurred one afternoon? The rest seems to just be Musk doing Musk and manufactured outrage (as I really do not understand how $8/mo is breaking the bank for popular celebrities and brands) over charging for validation. Anyway, down with Habbo Hotel.

I still think people are just mad because verified won't be a status symbol anymore. Vanity, nothing more. No matter how Musk handled this, he would've gotten hate because he is just a controversial dude, and he does like to stir the pot.

Yes, it's currently a status symbol, but it started out as a useful symbol. And it, arguably, still is.

To illustrate with an example, I follow Paul Massaro https://twitter.com/apmassaro3 because of his expertise and because he gave me advice when I needed it the most. He is, to put it mildly, a target for nation state actors,

> Paul Massaro is the senior policy advisor for counter-corruption and sanctions. Paul’s work has advanced the recognition of corruption as a national security threat. He has been described in the media as “one of America’s foremost corruption experts” and an “endless source of democratic ingenuity." His work has been similarly described as "breathtakingly prescient.” He has worked on over 13 pieces of counter-corruption legislation and facilitated the founding of the Congressional Caucus against Foreign Corruption and Kleptocracy and the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance against Kleptocracy. Paul also covers German-speaking Europe and East Asia.

> His work on the Rodchenkov Anti-Doping Act, a landmark law redefining doping as fraud and making it illegal in international competitions anywhere in the world, has for the first time provided justice to clean athletes and held to account the authoritarian actors who use sport as a tool of foreign policy. The Associated Press described the unanimous passage of the act as “a remarkable achievement considering the polarization in U.S. politics.” His work on the Transnational Repression Accountability and Prevention (TRAP) Act was similarly groundbreaking, serving as the first-ever U.S. law to respond to abuse of INTERPOL by authoritarian regimes.

https://www.csce.gov/about-csce/staff/paul-massaro-iii-polic...

He deals with sanctions and he is one of the people deeply involved in the Russian sanctions when they invaded Ukraine, https://www.csce.gov/international-impact/press-and-media/pr...

I am sure there are people who'd prefer that he was discredited, his work hampered, or just to hurt him a bit for the amount of money he's taken out of their coffers.

He is a cog in the machine, but he is one of the more important cogs in the machine. That makes him a target.

He is also an avid social media user and interacts with people on Twitter. A lot. He uses the site prolifically and has 300k+ followers due to his expertise.

If anyone could buy that badge, and millions would have to for Twitter to service the LBO's debt, then it becomes trivially easy for nation state actors to eventually create a fake, or several fake, Paul Massaros, and knowing which one is the real Paul would get harder. ("just check the username" doesn't quite work with the general public)

It would become easier to manufacture a scandal that could be used against him & the US in general.

The kicker is that he's not even remotely the most important person on Twitter. The site has a heavy chunk of the American leadership regularly interacting with people and each other online, and they're all targets that could be used by clever propagandists.

The badge used to help mitigate it. I know if I'm talking to a Paul Massaro with a badge, then it's the real Paul. That becomes impossible without it.

This is a terrible idea.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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post #418

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They're not "bitching about" more people being verified, they're "bitching about" the wanton, clueless vandalism of the verification system.

All I see is a bunch of wealthy and famous folks whining that their little badge of exclusivity has become easily obtainable by the masses for the price of a latte. Boo hoo. Your little blue badge of elitism is now available to the proles, how will you ever cope with such uppityness?

Let's make this simple.

Old blue checkmark: Twitter confirms that this person is who they claim to be. If an account is called DonaldTrump and has a blue checkmark, Twitter confirms it is the account of the former president.

New blue checkmark: Twitter confirms that someone pays 8 dollars every month. If an account is called DonaldTrump and has a blue checkmark, Twitter confirms that someone is paying 8 dollars every month for this account.

So, if you see a tweet from the blue checkmark @DonaldTrump saying "I am running for president", with the new system, you have no idea if the former president has publicly announced he is running again, or if some rando who had 8 dollars to spare wants to make it seem so.

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