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Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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That's not their problem. Their problem is an oppressive government and people who can't get organized enough to make a difference, very similar to the US. No one outside of Iran can solve their problems for them, just like no one outside of the US can solve US problems.

> Their problem is an oppressive government and people who can't get organized enough to make a difference, very similar to the US. Thanks for bringing the parallels in the US to my attention. Really, I had no idea that the US was so similar to Iran. You are doing this this topic a great service by not using hyperbole.

Suppose that there was an American handball player who was incarcerated unfairly, say, for bringing Schedule 1 drugs for personal use into the United States, how exactly would/should anyone outside of the United States apply public pressure to secure their release?

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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1. If you know someone from mainstream media, let them know this 2. If you know someone influential from country that Iran trades with, let them know. It is bit difficult as no country in Western world trades with Iran. And China doesn't give two shits about human rights abuse, same with India. South Korea and Turkey are the largest importer after those. 3. Upvote so that chances of someone who could help with first…

I would add: 4. Don't talk only to "influencers" — also talk to your co-workers, your neighbours, your internet community. Raise awareness. 5. Don't just "talk to". Ask. Ask (exiled) Iranians what they think about the situation. I was traveling around in Iran for some months, and one big takeway for me was that there is a huge gap between the highly educated, incredibly friendly and open-minded population and their c…

> I still don't really understand the historical situation in which the mullahs were able to come to power.

Easy. There was US sponsored coup against democratically elected government. It strengthened monarchy which was then seen as illegitimate by large parts of population. It also made the same parts of population dislike and distrust Americans.

So when there was yet another coup, many people supported it. A lot of those people ended up on the bad side of mullahs (like politically or career oriented women). But original support was support "against" rather then pro.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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The US, or Israel, or Saudi could probably negotiate a prisoner release. However, the price could be releasing some Iranian who's imprisoned there, at the very least.

That's incredibly naive.

Would you like to explain how it's naive?

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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It's interesting to me having recently slightly broken a few years' stint of largely ignoring 'the news', at least more than I have for ages, that I've heard about the protests in Iran twice via HN now (previously via Rust 1.65 release note: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33451359 ) and not at all from the newspapers I've read. (I think I'll go back to largely ignoring it, satisfied that HN is a perfectly adequ…

FWIW, I recommend to replace news surfing by perusing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events daily.

I'm not quite there yet myself, I sometimes fall in the bad habit of news surfing for fun, but I found the wiki portal to be sufficient to keep reasonably informed.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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It's interesting to me having recently slightly broken a few years' stint of largely ignoring 'the news', at least more than I have for ages, that I've heard about the protests in Iran twice via HN now (previously via Rust 1.65 release note: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33451359 ) and not at all from the newspapers I've read. (I think I'll go back to largely ignoring it, satisfied that HN is a perfectly adequ…

not at all from the newspapers I've read. I find that very interesting, since in the national and local newspapers I read in the United States, the Iranian protesters have been extensively covered. There were multiple stories each day at the beginning, and even now at least two or three each week. In what country are you? Which newspapers are letting you down?

That is interesting. I'm in the UK, haven't noticed it at all - and I just double-checked The Times (centre-right) and The Guardian (centre-left) online homepages, and also grepped each for 'Iran' and 'protest'. The only hit was for Iran in The Guardian, but that's an article about the war in Ukraine - 'Iran says it supplied drones to Russia before war began'.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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It's interesting to me having recently slightly broken a few years' stint of largely ignoring 'the news', at least more than I have for ages, that I've heard about the protests in Iran twice via HN now (previously via Rust 1.65 release note: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33451359 ) and not at all from the newspapers I've read. (I think I'll go back to largely ignoring it, satisfied that HN is a perfectly adequ…

FWIW, I recommend to replace news surfing by perusing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events daily. I'm not quite there yet myself, I sometimes fall in the bad habit of news surfing for fun, but I found the wiki portal to be sufficient to keep reasonably informed.

Thanks - I came across that in reply to a similar comment to my own here recently, I do like the idea of it, might try that for a while.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

#67
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It's interesting to me having recently slightly broken a few years' stint of largely ignoring 'the news', at least more than I have for ages, that I've heard about the protests in Iran twice via HN now (previously via Rust 1.65 release note: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33451359 ) and not at all from the newspapers I've read. (I think I'll go back to largely ignoring it, satisfied that HN is a perfectly adequ…

I see the merit in avoiding daily news sites, but I spend way to much time on HN, and this is the first time I've seen the Iran protests mentioned here. vs almost daily for the last while (week? month?) on CNN.

These were on the front page I believe:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33398134

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33371121

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33140237

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33106196

This last one was also about Jadi.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

#69
post #65

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not at all from the newspapers I've read. I find that very interesting, since in the national and local newspapers I read in the United States, the Iranian protesters have been extensively covered. There were multiple stories each day at the beginning, and even now at least two or three each week. In what country are you? Which newspapers are letting you down?

That is interesting. I'm in the UK, haven't noticed it at all - and I just double-checked The Times (centre-right) and The Guardian (centre-left) online homepages, and also grepped each for 'Iran' and 'protest'. The only hit was for Iran in The Guardian, but that's an article about the war in Ukraine - 'Iran says it supplied drones to Russia before war began'.

This gives me a lot of hits: https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+protests+site:theguardi...
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