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TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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The vintage (vim-like) mode is what pulled me into sublime text as my go-to editor. It's just so much faster. I opened the textmate alpha and immediately had a bunch of j characters appear before I realized i don't think I can go back. It's either ST or vim for now…

Try Vico. Textmate bundles and vim editing.

I did (but admittedly not for long). It didn't have the same level of polish. Has this changed? I can already use TM bundles on Sublime Text, but it just felt more feature complete.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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In the mean time Sublime Text 2 has all of the Alpha features as well as cross platform support and support for TextMate bundles. You should really give it a shot if you haven't.

Sublime text is very clunky and has that very weird "UI app written in a scripting language feel" to it. I know that's not a value which is easy to quantify, but I think it's down to a slightly weird architecture and latency because of its heavy dependency on python.

I really hate ST2's handling of project-wide file system controls on the left. Renaming a file keeps the old buffer open and I've been caught a few times re-saving under the old name. I've yet to figure out how to open a project directory from the GUI, too.

I always liked the file browser column in TM better.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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I can navigate the TM drawer much faster than I can navigate NERDTree. And I've probably spent more time in Vim so it's probably not just habit, but usability. Yes, command-t works, I mean, Vim is not a bad editor at all, I just find that TM is easier to use which leads to quicker workflows.

"""I can navigate the TM drawer much faster than I can navigate NERDTree. """ Then you're doing it wrong.

Or I'm really fast?

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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Honestly, while Sublime is GREAT, it doesn't feel like a Mac app.

Have you try out Soda[1]? It makes Sublime Text 2 feel a lot more Mac-like for me. [1]: https://github.com/buymeasoda/soda-theme

This is really a fantastic theme. Using it from now on.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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Split views are coming. From the post: "Split views: Yes, I actually had this on the alpha milestone, I’m not overly excited about this feature myself, but I know it’s a very common request, so eventually it should find its way into the application."

I don't get why people think this is an editor feature, and not an OS feature. When I want to view two files at the same time, I open two windows, and put them side by side. Not everything needs to be fullscreen all-the-time. Let the OS manage windows. It's better at it! Besides, having windows automatically become half-maximized is easy with the right tools, like BetterTouchTool (Do it with a gesture!), or Divvy.

Having two windows open at the same time, at least for me in EMACs is all about running command on the two windows at the same time, I don't think you can do that with two windows open.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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I'm sure I'm not the only textmate user who finds Sublime Text hideous. I'd sooner bite the bullet on vim if I'm going the ugly route.

I would have to agree. I tried Sublime Text for two weeks, but I continued to dislike it. It's not a bad editor or anything, it's just not for me. Personally I'm getting a bit tired of reading about how people think that TextMate is done and how we should move on. TextMate 1.5 is still my text editor of choice, it simply fit how I work. Honestly I would be happy if TextMate 1.5 is just maintained as is. There's a lot…

I agree for the most part, but that sentiment depends on individual usage patterns.

For example opening multiple windows works alright until I want to Find in Project at which point I have to switch to the project window. A minor annoyance but day in day out that gets old fast.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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Is there a good story behind the logo change and choice, or was it just time for something new?

I'm assuming it is to differentiate it from TM1 during the alpha.

When I asked on IRC I was told that the new icon is permanent. It's really nice in my opinion, but I do find it a somewhat odd choice for a text editor.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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I don't see any mention of this under notable changes since 1.5.10, but does TM2 undo more than one character at a time yet? This was the deal-breaker for me with TM. I like being able to undo and redo quickly.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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"""I can navigate the TM drawer much faster than I can navigate NERDTree. """ Then you're doing it wrong.

Or I'm really fast?

Faster to 1) leave the keyboard, 2) navigate with the mouse to the project pane, 3) select file, 4) back to the keyboard etc than to press 2-3 keys in Vim to move between NerdTree and your content and open whatever?

I don't think so.

In the very least, you could just use NerdTree with the mouse, exactly like TM, and it would be the exact same speed.

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