Live data from Hacker News

TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

blog.macromates.com

31–40 of 178 posts

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#31
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe...drumroll... multiple windows?

don't you have to open a new project or something contrived to do that? i don't remember; it's been a while since i've used textmate.

There's no projects in TM, if you open a folder it opens up the folder in the project drawer. From there (or from Finder) you can open up as many editing windows as you want.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#32
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime text is very clunky and has that very weird "UI app written in a scripting language feel" to it. I know that's not a value which is easy to quantify, but I think it's down to a slightly weird architecture and latency because of its heavy dependency on python.

This is a common misconception about ST2. The editor is actually written in C++, but exposes a Python API for plugins.

Fair enough, I was just speculating on why it feels clunky and misplaced on OSX.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#33
post #18
post #2

Split views are coming. From the post: "Split views: Yes, I actually had this on the alpha milestone, I’m not overly excited about this feature myself, but I know it’s a very common request, so eventually it should find its way into the application."

I don't get why people think this is an editor feature, and not an OS feature. When I want to view two files at the same time, I open two windows, and put them side by side. Not everything needs to be fullscreen all-the-time. Let the OS manage windows. It's better at it! Besides, having windows automatically become half-maximized is easy with the right tools, like BetterTouchTool (Do it with a gesture!), or Divvy.

The OS isn't better at it if there is none or limited ability to manipulate the windows in a keyboard driven way.

I use and love the 3rd party tool SizeUp, but SublimeText2's integrated pane management (including moving tabs between them) is far better than plain windows.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#34
post #7

A lot of people I know switched from TextMate to vim because of the lengthy delay. After using vim for a couple of years now, it would be very hard to go back to TextMate.

Yeah, but far more people will never learn vim because of the learning curve.

The vim learning curve is greatly exaggerated: http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/13164810557/the-vim-learni...

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#36
post #7

A lot of people I know switched from TextMate to vim because of the lengthy delay. After using vim for a couple of years now, it would be very hard to go back to TextMate.

I was an avid TextMate user up until 2 years ago when a situation arose where I was developing on a remote box. I tried sshfs and TextMate for a while but the latency made the situation unworkable so I turned to using Vim. I've been using it exclusively ever since.

I've been trying to use the alpha all day and I've found that I've forgotten all the useful shortcuts that I previously used. Also navigating using the arrow keys is much less efficient and it feels clumsy.

While I'm happy to see TM2 released, if even in alpha I think many like myself are too accustomed to the Vim way of life to ever return.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#37
post #7

A lot of people I know switched from TextMate to vim because of the lengthy delay. After using vim for a couple of years now, it would be very hard to go back to TextMate.

After using Vim for the last 3 or so months, I really can't see myself using anything else. You get to a stage of fluidity where no other editor can compare.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#38

In the mean time Sublime Text 2 has all of the Alpha features as well as cross platform support and support for TextMate bundles. You should really give it a shot if you haven't.

I'm sure I'm not the only textmate user who finds Sublime Text hideous. I'd sooner bite the bullet on vim if I'm going the ugly route.

Not at all. There is something about Sublime Text that I can't put my finger on, but I don't like it.

Actually, I always found Textmate the best editor for reading and small edits. When I do huge work on a file, I switch to Vim by habit.

Having tried Textmate 2, I will continue to do so - its still very snappy, especially now that it can handle remote folders fine.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#39
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a common misconception about ST2. The editor is actually written in C++, but exposes a Python API for plugins.

Fair enough, I was just speculating on why it feels clunky and misplaced on OSX.

How's it clunky? Java GUIs are alien and clunky. ST2 is just alien (and could be a lot worse).

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#40

In the mean time Sublime Text 2 has all of the Alpha features as well as cross platform support and support for TextMate bundles. You should really give it a shot if you haven't.

Honestly, while Sublime is GREAT, it doesn't feel like a Mac app.

Does TextMate 2.0a1 ?
Post reply on HN