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Re: Bars in Antarctica

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Post by photochemsyn »

extrememacaroni wrote: post #25
photochemsyn wrote: post #22

Individuals using drugs in a remote facility where screwups can lead to fatal results is a terrible idea. Yes, alcohol is entirely comparable to opiates, it has a similar endorphin-like effect. Beer is like opium, wine is like morphine, liquor is like heroin. As I see it, you might as well have photos of an opium den with some heroin needles lined up for the customer's use.

Well here's one guy I wouldn't want to have a beer with, in Antarctica or elsewhere.

More reasons to not normalize alcohol consumption:

> "People with alcohol dependence often experience "brain shrinkage," which is reduced volume of both gray matter (cell bodies) and white matter (cell pathways) over time."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424857

Re: Bars in Antarctica

#32

Post by autotune »

dmd wrote: post #29
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drunk people freezing to death on the street is common everywhere, even in Europe. One of my friends last winter, walked back home super drunk and passed out on the street. Instead of being happy he didn't freeze to death, he was angry some people called the ambulance for him that took him to the hospital, and got a €600 bill for it.

I thought health care was free in most of europe.

Less than the $3500 bill I received for taking an ambulance in SF several years back. And that was with health insurance.

Re: Bars in Antarctica

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Post by extrememacaroni »

photochemsyn wrote: post #31
extrememacaroni wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well here's one guy I wouldn't want to have a beer with, in Antarctica or elsewhere.

More reasons to not normalize alcohol consumption: > "People with alcohol dependence often experience "brain shrinkage," which is reduced volume of both gray matter (cell bodies) and white matter (cell pathways) over time." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424857

Makes sense to want to ban alcohol if no one wants to have a beer with you, it's okay.

Re: Bars in Antarctica

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Post by elif »

This is a surprising characterization of alcohol use at mcmurdo, and seems PR-focused.

I hiked with a guy after he finished up a season working on the base, and here is what I recall of how he described it:

Everyone is so bored that alcohol is the default entertainment, crown royal is virtually the only choice for daily drinking, and drinking is rationed to keep the problem down.

Re: Bars in Antarctica

#37

Post by bizzyb »

beachy wrote: post #18
usea wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A relative of mine has applied to work there. He told me in all seriousness that he wanted a place where women couldn't get away from him. Thankfully, he was not selected.

Yikes! I understand the psych testing is quite thorough before you can work there, so that's a good catch.

its been a few years since they did any psych testing for mcmurdo or pole

Re: Bars in Antarctica

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Post by chrisseaton »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #20
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of safety concerns, but not exactly the same level of danger. I suspect the biggest danger, is passing out, and dying of exposure. That also happens here, in New York. Every winter sees a few corpseicles.

Drunk people freezing to death on the street is common everywhere, even in Europe. One of my friends last winter, walked back home super drunk and passed out on the street. Instead of being happy he didn't freeze to death, he was angry some people called the ambulance for him that took him to the hospital, and got a €600 bill for it.

Where in Europe bills you to use an ambulance?

Re: Bars in Antarctica

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Post by jacobyoder »

dmd wrote: post #29
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drunk people freezing to death on the street is common everywhere, even in Europe. One of my friends last winter, walked back home super drunk and passed out on the street. Instead of being happy he didn't freeze to death, he was angry some people called the ambulance for him that took him to the hospital, and got a €600 bill for it.

I thought health care was free in most of europe.

Maybe he's not a citizen or has whatever national insurance? I had a family member (US citizen) have to pay for hospitalization in belgium. On checking out the staff were apologetic. "This is going to be expensive...". It was somewhere around a few hundred USD for him being in for ... 3-4 days, IIRC. It was insanely nothing. "Maybe you can contact your employer for reimbursement" he was told a couple of times.

Re: Bars in Antarctica

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Post by saiya-jin »

dmd wrote: post #29
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drunk people freezing to death on the street is common everywhere, even in Europe. One of my friends last winter, walked back home super drunk and passed out on the street. Instead of being happy he didn't freeze to death, he was angry some people called the ambulance for him that took him to the hospital, and got a €600 bill for it.

I thought health care was free in most of europe.

It depends per country, generally its free or super cheap, but there are some exceptions to services covered and ambulance can be one of them (its around 500$ in Switzerland - this still could lead to paying 0$ for patient depending on situation, don't know about other countries).

And dental care is probably not free anywhere anymore that I am aware of, but its still cheaper to take trans-atlantic plane to get some more complex work done in cheaper places here than doing it in bigger cities in US.

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