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Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by eurasiantiger »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #8
anthk wrote: post #5

Not a bad guide. However, never, EVER change your root login shell in OpenBSD. You've just opened a can of worms. Set up doas for that, and keep using zsh as your regular user if you want. Simple /etc/doas.conf: permit :wheel Use nvi from packages (it's nvi2 actually, base vi it's nvi) instead of nvim, much faster. It's basically base vi with UTF-8 support. Run :exusage and :viusage from within nvi. Also, my ~/.exrc:…

What’s bad about the root shell?

If you change it and for whatever reason it doesn’t work, you will be unable to login as root and the only way to fix it is to reboot into single user mode on a local console. Not exactly the best of things if your machine is not in the same room with you.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by Gigachad »

Sounds like a massive pain in the ass for just messaging friends. Both IRC and Tor are pretty mobile hostile. Would be much more practical to use an end to end encrypted IM platform on the clearnet. Matrix fits pretty well here.

That said, I'm told almost the majority of traffic observed through tor is IRC. For botnet control.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by thrown_22 »

Gigachad wrote: post #12

Sounds like a massive pain in the ass for just messaging friends. Both IRC and Tor are pretty mobile hostile. Would be much more practical to use an end to end encrypted IM platform on the clearnet. Matrix fits pretty well here. That said, I'm told almost the majority of traffic observed through tor is IRC. For botnet control.

Some people want anonymity. Mobile phones do not provide it.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by youguyssuck »

thrown_22 wrote: post #13
Gigachad wrote: post #12

Sounds like a massive pain in the ass for just messaging friends. Both IRC and Tor are pretty mobile hostile. Would be much more practical to use an end to end encrypted IM platform on the clearnet. Matrix fits pretty well here. That said, I'm told almost the majority of traffic observed through tor is IRC. For botnet control.

Some people want anonymity. Mobile phones do not provide it.

Yes they do? You can install system wide Tor on android. If you are referring to the fact that phones emit signals that can be triangulated, that doesn't interfere with anonymity in and of itself.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

#15

Post by agumonkey »

Gigachad wrote: post #12

Sounds like a massive pain in the ass for just messaging friends. Both IRC and Tor are pretty mobile hostile. Would be much more practical to use an end to end encrypted IM platform on the clearnet. Matrix fits pretty well here. That said, I'm told almost the majority of traffic observed through tor is IRC. For botnet control.

mobile hostile how ? I found tor browser on android pretty lean (quite surprisingly so)

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by upofadown »

hkt wrote: post #7
jazzyjackson wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case the parent meant "end to end" encrypted, no, of course the IRC server can see all the messages, but if you're the one setting up the chatroom for you and your friends, it's a bit of a moot point, the chat will be encrypted and anonymous as far as anyone outside the chat is concerned.

Various IRC clients have OTR plugins though, for the truly paranoid: https://irssi.org/documentation/help/otr/ https://github.com/onezero1/xchat-otr There's more listed here from the people who built and designed the libraries: https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/software.php NB, OTR is old and I can't vouch for its crypto, do your research if for some reason you're connecting to an irc server with a hostile admin where you a…

OTR is inherently 1 on 1. Any idea how you can make it work for group discussions?

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by eptcyka »

agumonkey wrote: post #15
Gigachad wrote: post #12

Sounds like a massive pain in the ass for just messaging friends. Both IRC and Tor are pretty mobile hostile. Would be much more practical to use an end to end encrypted IM platform on the clearnet. Matrix fits pretty well here. That said, I'm told almost the majority of traffic observed through tor is IRC. For botnet control.

mobile hostile how ? I found tor browser on android pretty lean (quite surprisingly so)

In terms of bandwidth, compute resources and also just the amount of time the modem has to remain powered on to transmit data.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by qzx_pierri »

rawoke083600 wrote: post #4

Man I wished we can go back to IRC, compared to the shitshow that is discord ! Slow client, stupid login circle-jerks, desktop-clients-vs-webclient and and and. Yea yea I'm old, but dammit in "my day", it was easier to communicate and the "tech" didn't get in your way. IRC was basically a "done product" and new features were usually spearheaded via "scripts" from users with a need. It seems the "new features" in disc…

I miss IRC too, but I don't miss the doxxing and DDoS nonsense. I don't have to setup a znc bouncer to connect to Discord. I don't have to take any precautions. It just works. I hate the client though, so I feel you on that. The lack of terminal integration with Discord is painful.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by blueflow »

upofadown wrote: post #16
hkt wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Various IRC clients have OTR plugins though, for the truly paranoid: https://irssi.org/documentation/help/otr/ https://github.com/onezero1/xchat-otr There's more listed here from the people who built and designed the libraries: https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/software.php NB, OTR is old and I can't vouch for its crypto, do your research if for some reason you're connecting to an irc server with a hostile admin where you a…

OTR is inherently 1 on 1. Any idea how you can make it work for group discussions?

Nobody on IRC uses OTR, people just talk unencrypted, trusting the server.

It isn't that bad tho when its your friends IRC server.

Re: IRC Server as Tor Hidden Service on OpenBSD

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Post by foodstances »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #18
rawoke083600 wrote: post #4

Man I wished we can go back to IRC, compared to the shitshow that is discord ! Slow client, stupid login circle-jerks, desktop-clients-vs-webclient and and and. Yea yea I'm old, but dammit in "my day", it was easier to communicate and the "tech" didn't get in your way. IRC was basically a "done product" and new features were usually spearheaded via "scripts" from users with a need. It seems the "new features" in disc…

I miss IRC too, but I don't miss the doxxing and DDoS nonsense. I don't have to setup a znc bouncer to connect to Discord. I don't have to take any precautions. It just works. I hate the client though, so I feel you on that. The lack of terminal integration with Discord is painful.

That is mostly solved with ChanServ and NickServ services. Channels can't be taken over with DDoSes because ChanServ protects them and attackers can't get your real IP because NickServ provides host masking.
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