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Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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there could be a number of reasons other than "Elon doesn't care about xyz" other members of the dev team can/are already doing this Maybe he plans to make it part of everyone's job Maybe he has his own team to replace it We have zero knowledge of what's going to happen so jumping ship without knowing the full picture seems haphazard to me.

Jumping ship because of X at this point is just ideological flexing, we have zero indication how this will play out yet.

> we have zero indication.

That's a gross mismanagement of sweeping changes. Which is in itself an indication. Anyone could have predicted people leaving the platform if they were told ahead of time how the layoffs and extra hours would be so poorly communicated.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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that's exactly elons problem now. every unpopular action will be pinned on him personally. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitt...

I wonder how Steve Jobs avoided this. Perhaps by being less political I guess

It was a different time, "CEO of an unsuccessful tech company" wasn't a person you had to have an opinion on. And then once Apple became successful with iPods and iPhones, their business model was "give us money in exchange for this neat thing," which is sort generally likeable and also opt-in (technically Twitter is opt in, I guess, but all the news reporters take it very seriously for some reason, so it tends to impose even if you don't opt in).

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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I think that it is case of preference or just different use case. If you follow few people that tweet sparsly, you want chronological. If you follow many people who tweet a lot, you want algoritmus.

That just sounds like algorithmic with extra steps. An algorithm can take information about your follows tweeting patterns and adjust the amount of chronological timeline you see.

Chronological means it is chronological no matter what. As in, you as a user decided that this is what you get no matter what algorithm thinks.

That is much different then algorithm that sometimes shows chronological.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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post #133

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that's exactly elons problem now. every unpopular action will be pinned on him personally. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitt...

I wonder how Steve Jobs avoided this. Perhaps by being less political I guess

I think it's because so many of Apple's customers idolized him. He was seen as a hero that could do no wrong, and all the poor decisions that Apple made were somehow someone else's fault. Even when I saw people complaining that Apple was making things harder for developers, Steve's name was not mentioned.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Yeah, I like living in a democracy, so I appreciated when twitter silenced certain people that tried to use it to violently overthrow my democratically elected government. Donald Trump tweeted all the time, many of his tweets were of a very different political opinion than mine (when they were coherent), yet he was not silenced. Not until he tried to violently overthrow the US government.

This is a brilliant example of a selective memory. What you have forgotten is that long before Jan6, Twitter blocked retweets of Trump's tweets, attached various warnings to his tweets, was selectively 'fact-checking' him, how that notebook story was banned on Twitter right before the elections. If that is not silencing, then what is? Can you name some other person on Twitter that had undergone a similar treatment?

The real question is, would they have done better by not acting on his antics? I think every moderation decision is a trade-off, and the final goal is always the health of the platform itself, not “society” or whatever. Yeah, some people will be hurt, but not acting would hurt too. So… I don’t know. It seems too “romantic” to me to believe that there is a handful of left-wing bigots in the company and all you need to do is get rid of them. I have a hunch the problem is more complex (and that Twitter cannot solve it, only try to survive).

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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I find this hilarious. We all understand that the core reason some people might want to hurt twitter is because it is no longer going to follow the moderation policy that they liked (namely, silencing people with different political opinions). Yet, people can't name this reason honestly, and invent some other thin weiled excuses like 'layoffs are baaaad and unethical'. Bold prediction: this influencer with 40k follow…

Or the simpler answer that doesn't fit your narrative is that lots of folks don't like Musk and his actions and his approach to running businesses. Lots of people find Musk repulsive. It shouldn't be a surprise that those people want to leave.

This simpler answer never seems to be the correct one, every[0] single[1] time[2]. It's much easier to say you're going to move than move.

[0]: https://www.mattmaldre.com/2017/08/02/people-leave-reddit/

[1]: https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/trump-fans-leave-twitter-after...

[2]: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/facebook-ou...

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

#257

If Twitter and Mastodon were taken permanently offline tomorrow, would this be of any significant loss to the world? When I see people like the author getting so publicly and verbosely upset about a social media website, I wonder about their perspective. There are surely much more important things going on than preening to the crowds.

Twitter is a great place to read work by scientists, researchers and other academics. There aren’t many places to tap into that world if you’re not already working in academia.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Or the simpler answer that doesn't fit your narrative is that lots of folks don't like Musk and his actions and his approach to running businesses. Lots of people find Musk repulsive. It shouldn't be a surprise that those people want to leave.

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I said some people don't like him. I guess it's also true some people find him despicable. What's your point?

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Twitter also used to be owned by average people. Like most publicly traded companies. So no, it's not from "many rich shareholders" to Elon. It's more nuanced than you're making it out to be.

> Twitter also used to be owned by average people Then all public companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, & Northrop Grumman are owned with the money of "average people"...largely managed by fund advisors.

Of course. What's your point?

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

#260

It doesn't seem sensible to invest yourself so much into Mastodon without having thorougly explored it. I too was fascinated with the fediverse, until I used it for more than a month and realized the people posting there were just as toxic and annoying as Twitters, not to mention the plenty of instances where the petty owners have made everything even worse

For Mastodon to 'work' in a way I'd enjoy, it would need a culture that it just does not have, and that has never emerged from any microblogging platform. The Fediverse as a whole is filled with enraged culture warriors, going out of their own way to be upset and exclude others. I don't buy into the "Well, you can just grow YOUR OWN island!" spiel. I don't want to make an echo chamber, I want a healthy environment wh…

Just wait until people start realizing the privacy problems that Mastodon have unless you make your own instance.

You don't like the new twitter moderation? oh wellcome to Mastodon where a 12 year old can be a moderator of a instance. Global guidelines for moderation? No in Mastodon since each instance can have their own rules, 10/10 if you love being in echo chambers.

Created your account in a random instance? oh well maybe all your messages end in doxbin because the 14 year old who made the instance have access to all your messages.

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