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Post by twohaibei »

tchaffee wrote: post #201
tga wrote: post #49

> I can’t see myself putting the same work in to help the world’s richest man pay the loans he took out So Twitter was “really good” (while it was helping the many rich shareholders of a random public company) but it’s suddenly “work” a couple of days after the owner changed? Nothing wrong for not using it because of ideological reasons, but the product’s accessibility (or anything else really) hasn’t changed yet.

Accessibility is supposed to change and improve. It's fair to expect that to halt when the entire staff has been fired.

In my opinion it's the opposite. The smaller the ship, the sharper the turn.

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Post by lll-o-lll »

causi wrote: post #120
szundi wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Even before Musk arrived there was a lot of debate about Twitter being overstaffed and departments are not producing any value at all. I don't know more or the details, but this is what sometimes I was reading years back.

That's the baffling thing to me. For the better part of a decade people have talked about Twitter being an overstaffed pack of idiots whose day to day largely consists of presiding over the fall of Western civilization. Now that they've been purchased by a jackass, however, they're suddenly a bunch of saints who've only been doing their best to hold back the tides of barbarism. I get the feeling that someone less of…

Funniest stuff I’ve read today. So true!

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Post by Taurenking »

atoav wrote: post #188
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #176

I find this hilarious. We all understand that the core reason some people might want to hurt twitter is because it is no longer going to follow the moderation policy that they liked (namely, silencing people with different political opinions). Yet, people can't name this reason honestly, and invent some other thin weiled excuses like 'layoffs are baaaad and unethical'. Bold prediction: this influencer with 40k follow…

For me it is much, much simpler. I invest a lot of my time in putting content and thoughts onto a platform. If I doubt the future of a platform and already find the status quo questionable, I am just not as motivated to put in the time to do something on there. I guess for many people twitter was a platform they wanted to get rid of for a while, this is just a trigger to convince the others as well.

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Post by madaxe_again »

jdub wrote: post #114
tga wrote: post #49

> I can’t see myself putting the same work in to help the world’s richest man pay the loans he took out So Twitter was “really good” (while it was helping the many rich shareholders of a random public company) but it’s suddenly “work” a couple of days after the owner changed? Nothing wrong for not using it because of ideological reasons, but the product’s accessibility (or anything else really) hasn’t changed yet.

Twitter was already under a cloud while Musk was grandstanding his acquisition stunt. Once he was forced to go through with it, his immediate actions and communication confirmed how much chaos we (users, staff, customers) were in for. Then after one week, awfully mishandled mass layoffs, demands to massively reduce infrastructure costs, etc. Nothing's changed? Sure it has. Trust and confidence are hard to build, easy…

“How much chaos”

The only “chaos” I’m aware of is the /b/ N**r spam invasion that occurred one afternoon? The rest seems to just be Musk doing Musk and manufactured outrage (as I really do not understand how $8/mo is breaking the bank for popular celebrities and brands) over charging for validation.

Anyway, down with Habbo Hotel.

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Post by tchaffee »

sshine wrote: post #165
ChildOfChaos wrote: post #158

'Twitter’s priorities are no longer even remotely aligned with my own.' Since when were they? The mistake was perhaps to ever think that they were. It was twitters 'priority to sell themselves to Musk, hence why they took him to court to ensure he bought them. This is a somewhat crazy, knee-jerk reaction to some news headlines, the author has no idea of what is really happening, i'm not saying that i do, but for exam…

It certainly is a knee-jerk- reaction. tl;dr: "I don't like Elon Musk either!" Nothing but virtue signalling.

Not liking Elon Musk and moving to a different platform is taking an action. Taking action is the opposite of virtue signaling.

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Post by dools »

tchaffee wrote: post #219
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #176

I find this hilarious. We all understand that the core reason some people might want to hurt twitter is because it is no longer going to follow the moderation policy that they liked (namely, silencing people with different political opinions). Yet, people can't name this reason honestly, and invent some other thin weiled excuses like 'layoffs are baaaad and unethical'. Bold prediction: this influencer with 40k follow…

Or the simpler answer that doesn't fit your narrative is that lots of folks don't like Musk and his actions and his approach to running businesses. Lots of people find Musk repulsive. It shouldn't be a surprise that those people want to leave.

That’s why I deleted my account. Musk and the rest of the PayPal mafia are hardcore neofeudalist libertarians, a movement that has gradually infected more and more of the tech world.

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Post by mrweasel »

panic wrote: post #100

It's exciting to see a truly open social network getting so many users.

Is it really getting all that many users. If so: What kind of users?

From Musks perspective Twitter isn't about the HN crowd or personal interaction between lower and middle- class people. It's all about the real influencers, entertainers, politicians, journalists, C-suite class, investors, millionairs and billionairs. Sure if you follow these people, boosting their follower count and their ego, you're welcome on the platform, but you're only there to read the messages from the upper echelons of society. If your yearly income isn't measured in the millions of dollars you're not really part of Elon Musks vision for Twitter.

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Post by low_tech_love »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #176

I find this hilarious. We all understand that the core reason some people might want to hurt twitter is because it is no longer going to follow the moderation policy that they liked (namely, silencing people with different political opinions). Yet, people can't name this reason honestly, and invent some other thin weiled excuses like 'layoffs are baaaad and unethical'. Bold prediction: this influencer with 40k follow…

You could be right, assuming he manages to indeed keep the platform running smoothly. I think that will be the most important factor. And while I honestly can’t be bothered to care whether people are banned or not from Twitter, it just sounds to me like the idea that less moderation is always good could be an oversimplification of the problem. If I am not mistaken there were attempts to create “free speech” platforms that never went anywhere. Also, from the point of view of the survival of the platform itself, banning a few people to please many more others seems to be more reasonable than taking some kind of ideological stand (in one way or another). So, the question is, can the platform survive (smoothly) supported mainly by the happy attitude of so-called freedom fighters?
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