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Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by pelagicAustral »

lokedhs wrote: post #16
fxtentacle wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?

I think OP may be talking about Fleet, which seems to be an attempt at making their IDE into something taken out of the webapp design rulebook. If that's the future of IntelliJ IDEA, then I don't want to develop using their tools anymore. Is that what "kids these days" expect from an IDE?

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Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by spacentropy »

pelagicAustral wrote: post #19
fxtentacle wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?

Mate, they are phasing out their classic IDE. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...

This post is not about Fleet, it’s about new clean UI for classic IDEs. I tried it in Rider and really liked it, it’s much cleaner. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new... AFAIK there are no plans to discontinue the classic IDEs in favor of Fleet

Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by kyriakos »

spacentropy wrote: post #22
pelagicAustral wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mate, they are phasing out their classic IDE. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...

This post is not about Fleet, it’s about new clean UI for classic IDEs. I tried it in Rider and really liked it, it’s much cleaner. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/05/take-part-in-the-new... AFAIK there are no plans to discontinue the classic IDEs in favor of Fleet

The new ui is a big improvement, they only removed/cleaned the right stuff, things I didn't even realize were getting in my way.

Re: Jetbrains Aqua

#24

Post by kaba0 »

lokedhs wrote: post #16
fxtentacle wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?

I think OP may be talking about Fleet, which seems to be an attempt at making their IDE into something taken out of the webapp design rulebook. If that's the future of IntelliJ IDEA, then I don't want to develop using their tools anymore. Is that what "kids these days" expect from an IDE?

Why would they phase out their other products? The actual code intelligence part is the exact same between them, fleet is just a client shell using that as well.

It is only made so the “lightweight IDE” niche is filled as well.

Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by rat9988 »

sz4kerto wrote: post #11
dzhiurgis wrote: post #10

> Selenium > Playwright (coming soon) Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.

It works? We have an extensive set of Selenium-based tests (something like 5k of them), and it's fine. Why should we switch?

For selenium, "it works" is not a constant.

Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by Tajnymag »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #10

> Selenium > Playwright (coming soon) Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.

I would say universality. Selenium's webdriver has bindings to many languages and has more universal browser support, IMHO. But I see your point, downloading webdriver files manually and dealing with element awaiting isn't fun.

Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by fxtentacle »

pelagicAustral wrote: post #19
fxtentacle wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?

Mate, they are phasing out their classic IDE. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...

No, they are merely changing how the default settings look like.

Besides, they'll give every subscriber a perpetual license for the current version before that happens. So if I really don't like it, I can just stay on CLion 2022.3. It's not like C++17 will be outdated anytime soon.

Re: Jetbrains Aqua

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Post by 411111111111111 »

Tajnymag wrote: post #26
dzhiurgis wrote: post #10

> Selenium > Playwright (coming soon) Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.

I would say universality. Selenium's webdriver has bindings to many languages and has more universal browser support, IMHO. But I see your point, downloading webdriver files manually and dealing with element awaiting isn't fun.

Really? Last time I needed browser automation for integration tests i just used selenide (jQuery inspired wrapper for selenium) and called it a day.

Had no issues whatsoever running the tests through maven and had a pretty good development experience.

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