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Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by szundi »

MrDresden wrote: post #80
tga wrote: post #49

> I can’t see myself putting the same work in to help the world’s richest man pay the loans he took out So Twitter was “really good” (while it was helping the many rich shareholders of a random public company) but it’s suddenly “work” a couple of days after the owner changed? Nothing wrong for not using it because of ideological reasons, but the product’s accessibility (or anything else really) hasn’t changed yet.

There is a very strong signal being given right now about the trend Twitter will be on for a long time.

Musk talking for days is not a signal yet

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by nudpiedo »

I find Mastodon doomed by design, understanding design as a whole, not just software. It looks like the technical right choice, including all the bells and whistles: decentralized, own your instance, etc.

However twitter's issue, and most of social network issues are the human factor. And by that design Mastodon is not inmune to any of it, it even encourages larger echo chambers, and reduces audiences.

I would say, very tech savvy people used their hammer to something they believed to be a nail.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by tluyben2 »

polote wrote: post #4

The same kind of posts happened when zuck changed the private policy of whatsaap a few months ago, everyone was migrating to Signal. Who uses signal now?

The sad thing is that I jumped to Matrix (with Element) and waited for the influx; 2 people moved. The rest either stayed on WhatsApp or moved to Telegram (to be fair, almost all my contacts, including my mother, actually did move to Telegram from WhatsApp). No signal, no matrix.

Matrix is nice in theory but Element is not very nice and the messing around with keys is not something most people will understand. This needs to be automatic by default, not a complete pain as it is now.

We have an example of a perfect chat client UI; Telegram. Why is no one just copying it verbatim for matrix? This is a question to, mostly, Element developers really. I don’t know why it is quite as unfriendly as it is, but of course we can all jump in and help out, that’s why I keep using it and sponsoring it. Even though I can only talk to 2 people.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by szundi »

NZ_Matt wrote: post #79
joeevans1000 wrote: post #69

As someone who cares for a blind father, I can't stomach the decision to eliminate the accessibility team. I am myself moving to Mastodon. I was amazed in doing this that the UI/UX of Mastodon is much better than Twitter. I feel better.

One could argue the accessibility team wasn't doing a very good job if Mastodon have done it better without a dedicated team. An application can and should have good accessibility by default without a dedicated team

This. Even before Musk arrived there was a lot of debate about Twitter being overstaffed and departments are not producing any value at all. I don't know more or the details, but this is what sometimes I was reading years back.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by gnuj3 »

dnh44 wrote: post #54
polote wrote: post #4

The same kind of posts happened when zuck changed the private policy of whatsaap a few months ago, everyone was migrating to Signal. Who uses signal now?

I just counted all of my signal chats that have had activity since the beginning of September and there’s 34 of them. On WhatsApp that number is 29 and on iMessages(not SMS) it’s 21. The best way I’ve found to actually get people to keep using signal after you’ve got them to download it is to respond to their WhatsApp messages on signal. It won’t take long until they stop initiating conversations on WhatsApp.

Or do what I had done - delete whatsapp and text them saying it’s either text messages or download Signal from here [link]. Everyone I gave a shit about had done that.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by schipplock » 

   I expect that the feature I’ll miss most from Twitter will be the algorithmic timeline!
I must be old. I remember a time when people wanted a chronological timeline (on by default). Twitter still offers a chronological timeline, but now that people are migrating to Mastodon, I've come across the wish to have an algorithmic timeline again quite often :). I just find this interesting (I can relate, I find the algorithmic timeline "easier" to consume, I don't have to invest time to find the perfect user to follow, I don't have to fiddle with lists etc..., just open Twitter and consume).

(btw.: I'm not using Twitter (also not using Arch scnr))

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by spion »

imperialdrive wrote: post #65
tga wrote: post #49

> I can’t see myself putting the same work in to help the world’s richest man pay the loans he took out So Twitter was “really good” (while it was helping the many rich shareholders of a random public company) but it’s suddenly “work” a couple of days after the owner changed? Nothing wrong for not using it because of ideological reasons, but the product’s accessibility (or anything else really) hasn’t changed yet.

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Thats precisely right - the software itself isn't really that impressive [*], the connections and people is what (can) make it great (or terrible, depending on who you follow).

[*] - as a product - there is some really great engineering due to the scale of course.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by MrDresden »

szundi wrote: post #81
MrDresden wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a very strong signal being given right now about the trend Twitter will be on for a long time.

Musk talking for days is not a signal yet

You are badly informed if you believe talk is all he has done.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by Barrin92 »

DoItToMe81 wrote: post #55
coffeeblack wrote: post #37

I liked Mastodon when it first came out. But nowadays it’s seems to be more like a Left wing version of Gettr. Wouldn’t use either.

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the single largest Mastodon instance is Japanese if I'm not mistaken, and overall it is significantly less US centric than Twitter. Among the top 15 I count about five Japanese ones, an Italian, French and German one and two dedicated to sex and tech workers. Substantially less US centric than mainstream media, including Twitter which bombards you with US politics even if you are like in my case, German.
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