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Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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> I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video. > If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined ove…

One more question I just thought of. When I use services like Reveddit I often notice [removed too quickly] where I'm guessing moderators get to it before the scraper can archive it. What type of timeframe do you guys typically work with before it gets removed? Any ideas on how to improve the capture times? Also are you looking for dev help with your project?

> When I use services like Reveddit I often notice [removed too quickly] where I'm guessing moderators get to it before the scraper can archive it. What type of timeframe do you guys typically work with before it gets removed? Any ideas on how to improve the capture times?

Current capture time is noted in the status on Reveddit.com/info [1]. That blue box will show up in threads when the capture time is delayed more than the standard, which I think is typically under a minute.

The content for [removed] comments in threads comes from another third party service called Pushshift. It isn't able to get many auto-removed comments (such as those removed by Automoderator), and that service sometimes goes down, may fail to ingest something, etc.

In an attempt to fill some of these gaps, Reveddit can restore some unarchived comments by searching the user pages of other commenters in the thread. And if you visit Reveddit via a direct link to a removed comment, such as from the button that is provided under such comments by the Reveddit Linker extension [2], then it will try to auto-load those comments this way. Otherwise you can click Restore to do it manually.

Almost all of the features on the site should be documented in either a bubble or the FAQ. If you see something that you think needs a help bubble, or a better description, let me know.

> Also are you looking for dev help with your project?

Sure! The code is on Github. Feel free to brainstorm via issues, email, or submit PRs. My main focus now is raising awareness so it would be great to have backfill on keeping the code functional.

[1] https://www.reveddit.com/info

[2] https://www.reveddit.com/add-ons/linker

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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I indirectly use your product. I surf reddit via teddit, libreddit and both of the. have integrated reveddit into their codebase.

If a comment is removed by reddit mods/admins, on libreddit you get a small notice which then directly links the notice to reveddit site from which I can see what the deleted comment looked like.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One more question I just thought of. When I use services like Reveddit I often notice [removed too quickly] where I'm guessing moderators get to it before the scraper can archive it. What type of timeframe do you guys typically work with before it gets removed? Any ideas on how to improve the capture times? Also are you looking for dev help with your project?

> When I use services like Reveddit I often notice [removed too quickly] where I'm guessing moderators get to it before the scraper can archive it. What type of timeframe do you guys typically work with before it gets removed? Any ideas on how to improve the capture times? Current capture time is noted in the status on Reveddit.com/info [1]. That blue box will show up in threads when the capture time is delayed more…

> Reveddit can restore some unarchived comments by searching the user pages of other commenters in the thread.

Clever

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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If you browse political/country subreddits (r/india for me), this is the only correct way to browse that subreddit because a slight agreement with a new government policy/good news regarding India gets removed by mods pretty quick.

/r/India is a cesspit of vitriol against anything 'traditionally' Indian or Hindu.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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I indirectly use your product. I surf reddit via teddit, libreddit and both of the. have integrated reveddit into their codebase. If a comment is removed by reddit mods/admins, on libreddit you get a small notice which then directly links the notice to reveddit site from which I can see what the deleted comment looked like.

Looks like libreddit links to another site whose differences I mentioned here [1]. See here for example [2].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33478793

[2] https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/meirl/comments/ymj861/meirl/...

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When I use services like Reveddit I often notice [removed too quickly] where I'm guessing moderators get to it before the scraper can archive it. What type of timeframe do you guys typically work with before it gets removed? Any ideas on how to improve the capture times? Current capture time is noted in the status on Reveddit.com/info [1]. That blue box will show up in threads when the capture time is delayed more…

> Reveddit can restore some unarchived comments by searching the user pages of other commenters in the thread. Clever

There are a lot of fun things you find when you start working on this. Virtually nobody else is doing it because they all think it's wrong without realizing it's the right thing to do.

For example, you could reverse engineer automod configurations by scraping user pages with a headless browser, storing all of the auto-removed comments, and then looking for the most common n-grams in a given subreddit. Alternatively you could make the code work "server-side" so some sort of json is returnable, though that would take more work.

And I haven't even mentioned the history pages, which may indicate where users and moderators have disagreed the most:

https://www.reveddit.com/v/worldnews/history/

Plus, this is only one social media site. Every site does this, and there's probably a way to reveal the shenanigans going on in a lot more places.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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Thank you for doing this.

I'm happy to do it, I've learned a ton about speech, myself, and society along the way. I also enjoy getting feedback, positive or negative, so please shoot me a note if you're thinking anything either here, via the address listed in my HN profile, or https://twitter.com/rhaksw

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined overton window. Not just people being off-topic or taboo... b…

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Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined overton window. Not just people being off-topic or taboo... b…

> This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined overton window

Or the subreddit has a very strict set of rules for posting top level comments which include:

> 3. Non-professional personal anecdotes will be removed

> 4. Criticism of published work should assume basic competence of the researchers and reviewers

> 5. Comments dismissing established findings and fields of science must provide evidence

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