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Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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The same kind of posts happened when zuck changed the private policy of whatsaap a few months ago, everyone was migrating to Signal. Who uses signal now?

My only active chat in WhatsApp is the one with my father. Are HN-type folks seriously still using chat clients by meta? What?

> HN-tyke

Not sure if on purpose or just serendipitous misspell.

I use whatsapp because my clients use whatsapp. Which means the team uses whatsapp. Friends are spread on several apps.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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It doesn't seem sensible to invest yourself so much into Mastodon without having thorougly explored it. I too was fascinated with the fediverse, until I used it for more than a month and realized the people posting there were just as toxic and annoying as Twitters, not to mention the plenty of instances where the petty owners have made everything even worse

It's possible that it's just the broadcasting format that makes things suck, rather than Twitter's specific content/moderation policies. It's like handing a ton of people in a room all megaphones to talk to each other; the incentive is always going to be that you should be 'louder' to get more attention over everyone else.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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It doesn't seem sensible to invest yourself so much into Mastodon without having thorougly explored it. I too was fascinated with the fediverse, until I used it for more than a month and realized the people posting there were just as toxic and annoying as Twitters, not to mention the plenty of instances where the petty owners have made everything even worse

Yeah but you don't have to follow them. I'm sure some terrible people use email, but email is still good.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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The author quit Twitter primarily because the entire accessibility team was sacked. Understandable... if you know nothing about Elon Musk.

I am not a fanboy in the least. But one thing he obviously does frequently is fix broken shit, then try again if that fails. He does these things in public and listens to feedback. He clearly keeps a sense of humor about things, which rattles a lot of people understandably.

I know nothing about the accessibility team there, but for all we know he has a better team lined up. The author and I both agree the reverse may also be true. Could be they get replaced by something worse. To assume Elon has simply discarded the issue of accessibility altogether is to me the least likely assumption.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My only active chat in WhatsApp is the one with my father. Are HN-type folks seriously still using chat clients by meta? What?

> HN-tyke Not sure if on purpose or just serendipitous misspell. I use whatsapp because my clients use whatsapp. Which means the team uses whatsapp. Friends are spread on several apps.

My bad, fixed.

Have you tried a WhatsApp-bridge with element/matrix? You could use matrix internally while being available to clients via WA. I would strongly discourage any company to use meta-clients internally.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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post #4

The same kind of posts happened when zuck changed the private policy of whatsaap a few months ago, everyone was migrating to Signal. Who uses signal now?

It's the typical anti- hate waves that happen in HN. Outside of this bubble, people don't really lose sleep over it.

Signal is a very good example because WhatsApp is getting more popular as the days go by as opposed to what one could possibly infer from the waves of posts that appeared not long ago here about it.

It's just so important to separate this otherwise insignificant group of minds vs the many other several millions that aren't here and don't share the views - or perhaps (some) do but then it comes down to the network effect once again which has always been a present issue in every alternative among other factors. This time won't be different I'm afraid.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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I'm not even mad, it's just funny.

It's just another salvo in the culture war - from this point of view, a management change in a major SM platform is pretty significant, especially when that platform was openly biased in one direction. So you have the usual noise, which has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter as a product or company.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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It doesn't seem sensible to invest yourself so much into Mastodon without having thorougly explored it. I too was fascinated with the fediverse, until I used it for more than a month and realized the people posting there were just as toxic and annoying as Twitters, not to mention the plenty of instances where the petty owners have made everything even worse

Yeah but you don't have to follow them. I'm sure some terrible people use email, but email is still good.

I also don't need to follow toxic people on Twitter, so I really don't know why I would use a badly programmed and infinitely smaller social network
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