> Selenium > Playwright (coming soon) Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.
It works? We have an extensive set of Selenium-based tests (something like 5k of them), and it's fine. Why should we switch?
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#12Is the test framework used in the IDE open-source? Can the tests run on CI/CD or is it for manual testing only?
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use JetBrains products seriously and have been quite enjoying the new UI. Would you care to explain why everything is now fucked up according to "everyone"?
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I've been using the new UI. I have no sentiments towards the old UI.
But the new UI is horrible. For one thing, there is no distinction between the gutter and the editor - it just looks like your code has an extra level of indentation, especially in languages for which almost the entire file is a single class, so all the business code is already two levels deep of indention.
And when the cursor is at the first of last line of a file, there is no visual indication that this is the end - the UI outside the editor looks like the UI inside the editor and the single pixel border is flush with the highlighted cursor line and the same color.
There are lots of little paperclips like this. I'm sure that I could adjust the colors of the theme (I use the dark theme) to address some of them. But by any measure everything related to the UI is either comparable or worse that the legacy UI - I've searched in vain for anything actually better in the new UI.
Happy to answer any questions or check anything specific.
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As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about.
CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?
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What exactly are you talking about? I use 3 or 4 of their IDEs regularly, and they don't seem to have changed more than incrementally for years.
https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/tag/new-ui/
> We’d also like to reiterate that we’re doing a gradual, feedback-driven rollout of the new UI. The current UI will remain available for at least two years, and we’re not going to remove it until we’ve seen that the vast majority of our users have successfully made the switch to the new UI. Also, very few of the design decisions you see now in the new UI are final, and we’re open to revisiting them based on your feedback.
> The new UI will remain customizable. It is, and will be, possible to change many aspects of the look and feel, such as icons, colors, font sizes, and spacing between controls through theme plugins. We’ll add options as needed to accommodate user preferences, like the ability to customize the toolbar.
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As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?
I think OP may be talking about Fleet, which seems to be an attempt at making their IDE into something taken out of the webapp design rulebook.
If that's the future of IntelliJ IDEA, then I don't want to develop using their tools anymore. Is that what "kids these days" expect from an IDE?
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#17I downloaded, started a new Kotlin based Selenium project and it does not work. JDK 17. I closed the IDE and tried it now and it does.
I think it's a great initiative but I would love if it launched with Playwright support as well at the beginning.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/tag/new-ui/
> We’d also like to reiterate that we’re doing a gradual, feedback-driven rollout of the new UI. The current UI will remain available for at least two years, and we’re not going to remove it until we’ve seen that the vast majority of our users have successfully made the switch to the new UI. Also, very few of the design decisions you see now in the new UI are final, and we’re open to revisiting them based on your fee…
Last I looked at it I wasn't even able to remap all the keys. I've been an IDEA user since around 2002, and I remember it took them many years before it was possible to set it up with Emacs keybindings that wasn't horrible. Will they be more efficient this time?
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As someone who spends pretty much all working time with IngelliJ, CLion, and PyTorch... I have no idea what you're talking about. CLion is insanely fast and its autocomplete and refactoring completely outclasses all Visual Studio products. The embedded CMake is the cherry on top. Remote debugging works even with custom gdb server on custom hardware. What else could I possibly want from my IDE?
Mate, they are phasing out their classic IDE. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...
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#20> Selenium > Playwright (coming soon) Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.
It's a library and not a framework. Besides the inherent superiority of libraries vs hollywood-principle frameworks, this lets you just import "from selenium import webdriver" in your code and have a programmable browser that you can use in various ways.
For example here's how to use it to
- download files with a browser: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-auto-...
- grab screenshot of a site: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-take-...