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Re: Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults

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Unfortunately we don't perform diagnoses at this point. We do have some great partners that we refer out to for diagnoses, or we can help support folks through that process. What we mean by that is we coach people who don't necessarily have a diagnosis. We welcome anyone who wants to come and be coached on ADHD-related skills & goals. For example, if you want to work on your executive function but you don't have an A…

Well this pricing is out of reach from most of the minorities. I'm not even sure why bring that up?

Thanks for the question. I bring this up because getting a diagnosis if you grew up in a community where mental health is stigmatized can be really hard. But getting help in case you can't get that diagnosis in a lower key way (e.g. ADHD coaching) doesn't have to be out of reach! This is 1 of the many reasons we don't require a diagnosis.

In terms of pricing, we offer financial aid to those who are in need as well. Hopefully we'll help bridge this gap and are actively working with a few non-profits to help sponsor these costs too!

Re: Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults

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Im really surprised to see the intense skepticism here. As someone who is just stumbling into this world and studying ADHD as an otherwise successful adult, Chris’ description (and $99 price frankly) resonated with me and made me think I might be in the target market. Even one of his responses to someone thanking someone for feedback is being downvoted. Is there a connotation of ADHD being associated with snake-oil o…

ADHD runs very strong in my family. My mom never learned to control it and lets it ruin her interactions. Changing topics 2-3 times in a sentience is not uncommon. My career was a mix of major success and failures. Basically depending how routine or novel the problem set was. Took medication at 40 for the first time. First time in my life I was able to work on something boring where it didn’t feel physically painful…

I've often thought the same thing and have heard it from others too.

Body doubling seems to be a common technique. I've often considered if some form of self surveillance (webcam, heart rate, computer usage metrics) combined with ML could observe and "nudge" you along.

For (intrusive) thoughts sometimes I'd rather not fight it because I'll randomly suddenly remember something that I couldn't recall over an hour ago, or be reminded, or see a vague connection to another topic that could be useful to investigate later.

Maybe it's not so much being reminded to stay on task but make it as frictionless as possible to capture something and put it away safely so before you get completely derailed...

As for attention "drift" when you're forcing yourself to work on something that really saps your energy so your subconscious is trying to protect you by pulling you away? The only thing I've found to help is to organise my life so that the conditions that cause that to occur have less of a chance of happening (getting enough sleep, eating protein, taking medication at consistent time with food, meditating, listening to my body and taking regular breaks to prevent crossing the overwhelm threshold, do enough housework on routine so there's no reasonable excuse to do a load of laundry) which I guess is what a lot of coaching will try and help you do, setting up practical systems to remove triggers and optimise the ideal conditions (my speculation).

I can't remember why I started writing this reply or if I'm even anywhere close to it being on topic now, but rather than delete it, I'm just going to leave it here.

Re: Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults

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Anything related to mental health, and ADHD/ADD in particular, lights up like a Christmas tree here on HN.

It's almost as if a website that's constantly updating you on the full breadth of technology in our world is some form of magnet for people with ADHD :D

Re: Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults

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It's really great to see a service like this.

I was diagnosed with ADHD at 30. It's shocking how much damage it can do in your life. On the outside you might see the lost jobs, career trouble and difficulty in relationships but the inner world of ADHD can be even worse. Frustration from unmet goals and shame from letting down those closest to you.

Unfortunately, where I'm from insurance doesn't cover any kind of talk therapy. Online services like this can be an affordable way to access help.

Re: Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults

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Maybe an optional plan that costs a little extra but allows for last minute rescheduling within the week. And everyone starts with this feature at no extra cost at the beginning. The company leaves extra slots open for this possibility, treating it like an insurance scheme. Also last minute rescheduling means last minute scheduling for other people too. They may find that they just offer this to everyone and the cost…

Yes! Actually we kind of have a soft rule that in the first few weeks we always make sure you get your session, even if it means rescheduling last minute. This isn't of course the best scenario for our coaches who are waiting on the other end, but we're happy to invest in this to make sure our members get off on the right foot (the onboarding call is very important and must happen to start the coaching relationship).…

> We do want to set good examples and boundaries and have members practice this wherever possible, while of course being sensitive to ADHD accomodations.

I would include the accommodations in the policy, then. Right now, you have a strict policy with accommodations being hidden and handed out arbitrarily instead of making them default and transparent while the vast majority of your clients will require the accomodation.

I would also include the ability for the coach to notify the client they are currently missing the appointment. Time blindness is a very real thing and unless I stop everything I'm doing and stare at the Zoom screen there's a chance I will miss the appointment. I missed some doctor appointments this way, but if they had just texted or called me to break my hyperfocus, I would've hopped on the call right then.

Lastly, just seeing policies like this out in the wild would give me more confidence in the service you offer. Seeing the same policy that every other doctor has that ADHDers get "taxed" from all the time just makes me think you don't understand.

Re: Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults

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I like the site but it seems overpriced - a good therapist is cheaper and can do the same thing. A psychologist and psychiatrist can both clinically diagnose you and give you pharmaceuticals if needed at prices similar to the ones mentioned if you have insurance. Personally I would argue from working with some kids who have adhd in the past that more gamification and reasons to use their phone will exacerbate some of…

Where are you getting therapy cheaper!? most therapists I've found around me are $xxx/hr and don't take insurance.

New York - check your health insurance site or call them and ask for in network therapists. If you're paying three figures an hour you're getting screwed.
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