What differentiates you offering from Inflow ( https://www.getinflow.io )? The description of your app sounds almost like a one to one copy. EDIT: I checked the Inflow offering and even the pricing is similar to yours. 2nd EDIT: Also, the 'coaching, but not therapy' thing is similar.
Launch HN: Shimmer (YC S21) – ADHD coaching for adults
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably going to get downvoted - but I'll hypothesize anyway... I imagine for the younger folks on HN, we grew up with what seemed like >50% of people claiming to have ADHD, OCD, Tourettes - or some other TikTok-fad "cool" disorder - which obviously not that many people actually have these problems. At least not too long ago when I was young enough to be in that crowd - ADHD was the king of "cool" disorders. Everyon…
> At least not too long ago when I was young enough to be in that crowd - ADHD was the king of "cool" disorders. Everyone wanted to have ADHD. If you were "normal" - that was "uncool". It was like - what's wrong with you? Why don't you have some debilitating problem like everyone else? Speaking as someone who definitely, definitely has rather severe hyperactive type ADHD complete with anxiety comorbidity and tactile…
Because they don't understand just how debilitating it is and how much trauma it causes a person. It's absolutely shit, especially for those of us who find out later in our lives like both of us apparently. Aside from the normal issues that go with it, now I'm also plagued by the thought of how things could have gone had literally anyone picked up on it when I was a kid.
I don't think it's about being cool, at least not completely, I legitimately think some folks want at least some struggle in their lives. Something to fight against, something to give them...purpose? I'm honestly not sure, but I know if they did have it they'd do everything they could to get rid of it.
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#83I really resonate with this and I just signed up for the month intro package! It seems like a small price to pay if it works! My therapist (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy/CBT) and Internal Family Systems (IFS)) always says that the key to ADD/ADHD is to have structure, and this looks like shimmer could fit that prescription! Chris, I am in your knowledge learning section of the app and your videos are not able to be pl…
We'll definitely investigate on our backend and see if we can reproduce the stuttering on our Android test devices as well. You can always email support@shimmer.care or message the Shimmer admin account directly within the app and we'll make sure to log your bug and prioritize it with the team after investigating!
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#84Interesting concept. Personally, I'm not a fan of therapy (tried it 3 times and it didn't stick) because I felt like I wasn't learning anything tactical that I can apply to my life. I'm a founder with ADHD so I'm very focused on building and "unblocking" myself -- e.g. getting myself to do the thing I know I need to do but can't do for some reason. If having a coach who can help unblock me quickly when I'm in a state…
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#85Im really surprised to see the intense skepticism here. As someone who is just stumbling into this world and studying ADHD as an otherwise successful adult, Chris’ description (and $99 price frankly) resonated with me and made me think I might be in the target market. Even one of his responses to someone thanking someone for feedback is being downvoted. Is there a connotation of ADHD being associated with snake-oil o…
Hi! Chris(tal) here (also, I'm a woman.. she/her, haha. I get that a lot using my nickname) Unfortunately, yes. There are many businesses that take advantage of not only people with ADHD but people in other vulnerable communities (e.g. other neurological conditions and mental illnesses). I've been in this space for a long time since I started with my Eating Disorder amongst other things in my teenage years. Of course…
I hope that is helpful.
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#86I have severe ADHD, but I have paid THOUSANDS to therapists and honestly - I NEVER got any benefit from it other than more stress from having to pay so much money for something out-of-pocket. My ADHD has cost me a lot more than money, but what specifically, or HOW specifically is your therapy different than the therapists I have already spent $$$$ on?
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#87Im really surprised to see the intense skepticism here. As someone who is just stumbling into this world and studying ADHD as an otherwise successful adult, Chris’ description (and $99 price frankly) resonated with me and made me think I might be in the target market. Even one of his responses to someone thanking someone for feedback is being downvoted. Is there a connotation of ADHD being associated with snake-oil o…
ADHD runs very strong in my family. My mom never learned to control it and lets it ruin her interactions. Changing topics 2-3 times in a sentience is not uncommon. My career was a mix of major success and failures. Basically depending how routine or novel the problem set was. Took medication at 40 for the first time. First time in my life I was able to work on something boring where it didn’t feel physically painful…
But when you said boring tasks are painful, and wanting someone to tap you on the shoulder when you get off task, I was nodding along vigorously. My best solution to this (so far) is to ensure my way of contributing meaningfully to things doesn’t require rote, boring work. :) I’ve considered setting up a camera over my shoulder just to give myself the feeling of being observed…
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#88I understand your need to ensure your time is not wasted, but policies like this can wreak havoc on people struggling with executive dysfunction and that's your target audience. I don't know what the right solution is, but a company serving this market needs a more flexible policy for something like this.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exercise manages symptoms, it’s not a cure. Honestly if you have adhd I would stop coming to HN. It’s a distraction and the nature of it requires you to constantly check in.
Exercise manages ZERO ADHD symptoms. I can tell you between times of almost zero exercise and anything from once to five times a week the ADHD was not affected. Telling me to stop coming to HN is like telling a drug addict to just not take drugs. Even if I block HN, I will just be distracted by something else.
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#90I like the site but it seems overpriced - a good therapist is cheaper and can do the same thing. A psychologist and psychiatrist can both clinically diagnose you and give you pharmaceuticals if needed at prices similar to the ones mentioned if you have insurance. Personally I would argue from working with some kids who have adhd in the past that more gamification and reasons to use their phone will exacerbate some of…
As a coaching psychologist and senior member of Shimmer team, I concur with the prevalent view that the way to improve the quality of life of someone with ADHD is through integrative approach comprising each of the helping strands: the clinical, psychotherapy and coaching.
In this “holy trinity”, the niche filled by coaching reflects on the state of affairs which demonstrate that while humans are fairly capable of navigating their past experiences and manage the “present immediate”, we are not so successful at thinking about, and getting the best out of the future. This gave rise to the areas of psychological sciences which are focused on goal setting, planning, self-motivating and developing through the entire life-course. These pretty much inform our trademark Shimmer approach to coaching psychology and what happens during the coaching sessions, therefore.
Thank you so much for the good luck wishes. These are especially valuable since our aspiration is to evolve efficacy and the evidence-base of ADHD coaching, and to help ADHD folk have an active role in moving towards a better quality of life.