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Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by memish »

tshaddox wrote: post #780
yummies wrote: post #639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's a much simpler and less juicy angle here: someone posted a screenshot of an internal communication , and it got removed. It's not surprising or controversial that Twitter would try to contain a leak of its own internal comms (a screenshot of their slack). This isn't "Twitter took down a disparaging post about Twitter", it's that they tried to stop the sharing of internal data. That being said, I don't…

> It's not surprising or controversial that Twitter would try to contain a leak of its own internal comms (a screenshot of their slack). It's not surprising or controversial, but it's in direct opposition to the idea that Twitter should allow all legal speech.

That's a conflation of two different things. Twitter Inc. the Company and Twitter the App.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by jeremyjh »

mrits wrote: post #655
tshaddox wrote: post #581

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It would be nice if revenue and employee count were completely independent. Heck, you could fire everyone except one person and have an incredibly high ratio! (Don’t fire that last person or else you’ll get a divide by zero error.) Interestingly, he’s already tweeting out complaints about a massive drop in revenue. His theory is that this is caused not by his erratic behavior, but instead by activists who hate free s…

I don't understand how anyone could not blame activists for this? They themselves are taking credit for it.

Were the activists controlling ad spend?

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by ignoramous »

m-p-3 wrote: post #522
john-radio wrote: post #402

A lot of the tweets that are quoted in the article have been removed. For example, Twitter employee Cristina Angeli is mentioned in the story for having tweeted an image of "staff members... flooding an internal Slack channel with blue heart emojis as they wait to learn their fate tomorrow", but that tweet is deleted on twitter itself because "This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules." This is ironic if you consider all…

I will send a request to archive a copy of a tweet in the Wayback Machine just in case, especially if the tweet is critical of Twitter from now on.

archive.is works nicely too. Esp, since it strips any archived page of javascript and ads.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by wobbly_bush »

Bhilai wrote: post #541

Sorry to say this but comments on this thread are very disappointing and show a basic lack of empathy in HN crowd. I am obviously generalizing and I know most of you are not heartless souls. FFS people, a huge number of people have lost their livelihoods, sense of belonging and might fall into financial hardships in current market conditions. Whatever you think of Elon or Twitter employees, its good to be grounded in…

> A huge number of people have lost their livelihoods, sense of belonging and might fall into financial hardships in current market conditions

At the end of the day, CA is an at-will employment state. Anyone can get fired anytime, and it is up to everyone to be prepared for that. Any person working in any company X can meet the same fate - it's like being prepared for an earthquake, which can happen anytime. I'm not condoning what's happening at Twitter, but the idea that those employees had no way to be prepared for this is false. Though I agree with you that we should show empathy to those affected.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by ignoramous »

pavlov wrote: post #68

In four years Musk will be bored to death with Twitter and will sell it to private equity and the Saudis for $5 billion. At that point it will be mostly a platform for porn creators and crypto pumping, the only two verticals where Twitter seems to be actually growing lately.

> At that point it will be mostly a platform for porn creators and crypto pumping, the only two verticals where Twitter seems to be actually growing lately.

Like justin.tv/twitch, they might do well to identify the pivot.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by thepasswordis »

How many of these employees signed a letter of "demands" towards their new CEO?

I'm sorry, but I have a really difficult time feeling anything other than schadenfreude for these people. You guys are making how much money working at a company which appears to be unable to actually make money, and at which you appear to see yourselves more as activists than employees.

The gall of these people to then put together a letter of "demands" (not suggestions or requests, DEMANDS), and then the next week complain that they're being asked to show what they've been working on for the last month is just...

Sorry guys, but the gravy train of $250k/yr as a 23 year old product manager working 2 hours a week remotely while making tik toks about how cute your life is are over.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by barbazoo »

thepasswordis wrote: post #826

How many of these employees signed a letter of "demands" towards their new CEO? I'm sorry, but I have a really difficult time feeling anything other than schadenfreude for these people. You guys are making how much money working at a company which appears to be unable to actually make money, and at which you appear to see yourselves more as activists than employees. The gall of these people to then put together a let…

It's Schadenfreude btw.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by [deleted] »

isx726552 wrote: post #752
yummies wrote: post #639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's a much simpler and less juicy angle here: someone posted a screenshot of an internal communication , and it got removed. It's not surprising or controversial that Twitter would try to contain a leak of its own internal comms (a screenshot of their slack). This isn't "Twitter took down a disparaging post about Twitter", it's that they tried to stop the sharing of internal data. That being said, I don't…

> someone posted a screenshot of an internal communication, and it got removed Yeah, except Musk himself already did that: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586885887341645824 I mean it’s his company he can do as he likes, but that was one of the first things he did after the buyout.

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Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

threeseed wrote: post #59
bluescrn wrote: post #12

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For comparison, SpaceX runs an entire private space program on ~12,000 employees. Near-weekly launches. Rocket development+production. Building+deploying Starlink. (Although that's just a number from a quick googling. Maybe they outsource a lot of manufacturing etc?)

That comparison is however completely irrelevant to Twitter. It may seem to ignorant people that a space program is more advanced than "just a website" but actually running these kind of websites is extremely complex. Especially when you're needing to compete with Facebook and Google at serving ads in a relevant and effective way. It is really interesting reading through their infrastructure challenges alone: https:/…

How many employees would it take to just maintain the status quo? Code freeze, no more features and bug fixes. Just keep the lights on and keep selling ads.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by partiallypro »

brtkdotse wrote: post #743
CrazyStat wrote: post #726

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Starlink's total bandwidth is about the same as a small regional ISP. There is no way it will ever "control the world's internet". Starlink will serve many places where terrestrial wired or wireless access doesn't make sense, including oceans, very rural areas, uninhabited areas, airplanes, rockets, etc. It will never be able to serve 1% of a high density city. It will never control anything on the scale of the world…

Can't find the article now but it made an interesting point that Starlink is just busywork for SpaceX to keep launching rockets.

Starlink has massive DoD potential, like it or not. Also could be big for banking. Their client facing aspect of it will eventually just be piggybacking off of those two industries.
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