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Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by cma »

The in-office requirement seems like clearly constructive dismissal given this:

"2-day a week office requirement = 20% voluntary departures" "Day-0...sharpen your blades boys!"

https://fortune.com/2022/10/06/elon-musk-jason-calacanis-ret...

An office requirement because you think it helps the culture is one thing; an office requirement simply because you know the attrition it will cause so you "sharpen your blades"/salivate over the prospect is very different. Twitter encouraged employees to move out of state far away from offices, etc.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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e40 wrote: post #8
awb wrote: post #6

> it’s seeking a range of relief, including compensatory damages (including wages owed), as well as declaratory relief, pre- and post-judgment interest, plus other attorneys’ fees and costs. So, the penalty is paying workers the wages they would have been paid anyway under proper notice, plus interest? So for basically ~5-8% more Musk gets to terminate everyone today instead of in 60 days.

The stunning thing is that he didn't consult a proper lawyer that would have told him how to avoid the lawsuit.

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Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by notafraudster »

[deleted] wrote: post #7

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Among people I know at Twitter who got laid off, they have 60 days of notice during which they don't need to work but still get paid + severance commensurate with their tenure (30+ days). All of them think this whole process is an absolute fucking shitshow and the company is going to swirl the toilet bowl, but I don't think any feel as though their legal rights were violated.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by baidifnaoxi »

cronix wrote: post #2

> Additional plaintiffs, Justine De Caires, Jessica Pan, and Grae Kindel said they were terminated on November 3 by being locked out of their accounts. > Under Twitter’s takeover deal terms, Musk had agreed to keep employee compensation and benefits the same. That means the laid-off employees should receive 60 days of salary and the cash value of the stock they were to receive within three months of their last date a…

This is exactly it. Terminated technically means, no longer receiving compensation or benefits.

If Musk is basically saying “stop working” and we will pay you for the next 60 days (and even beyond), then this is completely legal as long as they are not restricted from seeking other employment during this “notice period”

Edit: IANAL

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by mikestew »

Can we please fix the title? Not only is it incomplete and makes no sense, it also got butchered such that it is now wrong. Original:

"Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs without proper legal notice"

At least replace the "with" with "without".

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by voxl »

NoblePublius wrote: post #14

There is no WARN act violation if the employee receives 60 days of severance and some consideration for vesting. Is there any evidence that didn’t happen?

Is the lawsuit itself not evidence? Do you think employees are sitting there thinking "let's waste money and time on a lawsuit that will have no impact." There must have been some good faith believe that Musk had no intention of providing severance. Is that really so hard to believe from the outside?

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by emedchill »

cronix wrote: post #2

> Additional plaintiffs, Justine De Caires, Jessica Pan, and Grae Kindel said they were terminated on November 3 by being locked out of their accounts. > Under Twitter’s takeover deal terms, Musk had agreed to keep employee compensation and benefits the same. That means the laid-off employees should receive 60 days of salary and the cash value of the stock they were to receive within three months of their last date a…

According to a leak to Business Insider[0], they are still "employed" but are not allowed to work.

[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/read-blunt-email-telling-twi...

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by MBCook »

awb wrote: post #6

> it’s seeking a range of relief, including compensatory damages (including wages owed), as well as declaratory relief, pre- and post-judgment interest, plus other attorneys’ fees and costs. So, the penalty is paying workers the wages they would have been paid anyway under proper notice, plus interest? So for basically ~5-8% more Musk gets to terminate everyone today instead of in 60 days.

No. There are also fines to the state/federal government. I saw one number (CA?) of $500/person/day. Don’t know if that was it or minimum or what.
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