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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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But they can’t necessarily email you, given Google’s procedures regarding “spam”, i.e. anything from a small email server.

Google isn’t as bad as Microsoft or AT&T in my experience. My personal server now is working fine with those now too.

Yeah, that's my experience too. Google doesn't like new domains, but at least accepts mail and delivers to spam (or to the inbox once the domain is old enough). Microsoft just refuses all mail if you host on a VPS whenever someone else on the block (NOT the same IP) misbehaves (or is accused of misbehaving, not sure).

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #27

Doesn't this prove the value to users of a centralized platform over a federated platform? The centralized platform made it very easy to find people. Now people who are moving to a federated platform miss the value of centralization, so they are writing a tool that will leverage that value and import it into the federated platform. Maybe if Mastodon was a centralized Twitter-style platform it would be more usable, an…

> Doesn't this prove the value to users of a centralized platform over a federated platform? Not at all. These types of centralized platforms won because they raised capital to grow fast and meet market needs before anything else. Email is still king, but if it were to be designed today, it would have been designed as some proprietary centralized system. Distributed systems are hard. In any case, I don't think federa…

Agreed - the fediverse is already run by little gatekeepers who want to decide who you can and cannot communicate with (if you are on their instance). That should simply not be possible on the protocol level, meaning your account must be fully separated from any kind of "instance" except your own client.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #452

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Twitter suppressed the NY Post's story on Hunter Biden's laptop right before the 2020 presidential election. Calling a surgeon who performed sex reassignment surgery a criminal is what got Jordan Peterson suspended until he'll remove that tweet. Trump was banned despite never telling anybody to go inside the Capitol building and even posting a video telling his supporters to go home. Milo Yiannopoulos was banned for…

All of these ideas/notions/opinions/stories were very widely disseminated on Twitter to an audience of millions (BTW, the legality of Trump's behaviour, including what exactly he urged his followers to do, is under ongoing investigation). The suppression of the Post's story on Hunter Biden might have been an overreaction, that story itself was all over Twitter (that's how I heard about it). It's possible some tweets…

"I assume a claim could be made (although it would be hard to support) that, on average, more conservatives are suspended than progressives for similar behaviour"

Thanks, that pretty much wraps it up.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

#504

Obligatory reminder that Mastodon is a user interface for a defederated network commonly called the Fediverse, and that referring to the Fediverse as "Mastodon" is like referring to the web as Chrome. Spitting into the wind at this point, I know, but it still bothers me.

For example, you can view posts on a Pleroma server with a Mastodon client.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #12

Twitter is the only platform I know where you can search for people who share your interests and then connect with them. The whole #buildinpublic community is just insanely great. Everybody is building something. Everybody is having similar issues to talk about. You can make so many great connections and help each other out. But I feel that with Twitter becoming a private company owned by a single controversial perso…

Wait and see what happens. The fundamental incentives for Twitter as a business have not changed. It is a free service that needs to convert user engagement into advertising dollars. Unless Twitter moves to a paid model, that will always be true no matter who owns it. And if Twitter fails, any potential replacement will need to deal with the same incentives and solve the same problems Twitter did.

In contrast, most fediverse communities are run on donations or by the private funds of an individual. There aren't perverse financial incentives in the same way. This is one advantage of having many, smaller servers.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #500

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> That some accounts were suspended under specific circumstances does not mean that conservative content is suppressed. I never said anything about "Conservative content is being suppressed", which is in and of itself an incredibly vague and arbitrarily defined assertion. The commenter you replied to was the one who said it. Hopefully my points are clearer than that, but there is some overlap. > Potential bias in mod…

That has nothing to do with conservatism, though. If a conservative is arrested while spraying "Stop the Steal" on your car, that doesn't mean that the police is suppressing conservatism. Twitter chooses to prevent certain behaviours and certain actions, and also doesn't wish to disseminate misinformation about a pandemic (progressives fell victim to those beliefs, too). Like every enforcement action, it's certainly…

So we're calling it as vandalism, violence, and misinformation now? Think you just lost the argument there.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #482

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> because of — you name it — political propaganda I would pause for a moment and revaluate whether I am still who I think I was. We don't know why Pelosi's husband was attacked. The guy who attacked him appears to be left wing (nudist activist, pro lgbt, he made hemp jewelry, and was a member of the green party). Pelosi appears to have said the attacker was his friend on the police call. We just don't know enough to…

> We just don't know enough to say it is political. If you read my comment again you will realize that I did not say whether the attack was political or not. I said the defense of the attack certainly is exactly that: political. So it does not matter anymore whether the attack itself was political at this point. The question now is: Why would anybody defend an supposed "non-political" attack like this one? This is li…

>say whether the attack was political or not.

>I said the defense of the attack certainly is exactly that: political.

>So it does not matter anymore whether the attack itself was political at this point.

I misread what you wrote.

>The question now is: Why would anybody defend an supposed "non-political" attack like this one? This is literal "supporting-horror-movie-villain"-territory. Or as I said: If they made me defend that, I would definitely reconsider why I let them manipulate me into this. I am not sure what I would gain from letting them do this to me, other than offsetting the realization that they duped me for yet another day.

I don't think any mainstream person is defending this. There have been comparisons to Rand Paul's attack since various people who were supportive of the attack on Rand (including the Pelosi's daughter) are opposed to this one.

There has also been some lack of sympathy, which is unfortunate.

>On a side note: given what we know this attack was indeed political. If you are consume actual news outlets you might know that the attacker is quoted to have said to the police he wanted to wait for the speaker and "break her kneecaps” to show other members of Congress there were “consequences to actions".

I haven't seen anybody provide evidence to that. I have seen some claims, but nobody involved is quoted as hearing it (as far as I have seen).

Seeing how the media has been lying from the very beginning of this case I will wait until somebody reputable provides evidence to that statement.

The defense lawyer said there has been a lot of misinformation regarding this case, so I think trusting the people spreading the misinformation isn't a wise decision.

>Attacking a public representative for their political actions is as political as it gets.

>If you don't like what your representatives do in a democracy, you vote them out. What you don't do is this psycho killer bullshit.

I agree you shouldn't attack people over politics, but you are assuming this was an attack over political actions...

He appears to be similar politically to the Pelosis.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #500

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That has nothing to do with conservatism, though. If a conservative is arrested while spraying "Stop the Steal" on your car, that doesn't mean that the police is suppressing conservatism. Twitter chooses to prevent certain behaviours and certain actions, and also doesn't wish to disseminate misinformation about a pandemic (progressives fell victim to those beliefs, too). Like every enforcement action, it's certainly…

So we're calling it as vandalism, violence, and misinformation now? Think you just lost the argument there.

I wasn't having an argument, merely saying that no one has ever been able to present a conservative idea that Twitter has not widely publicised, let alone banned outright.

The dangerous misinformation about Covid that Twitter didn't want to publish is not a conservative idea at all; both conservatives and progressives fell victim to it and spread it. I think that there were more conservative victims because these days people who more easily believe conspiracy theories are more likely to be conservative, but that correlation is purely accidental and wasn't always the case. Certainly there is no conservative content to stories about chips in vaccines or miracle cures.

As to vandalism and violence, I was pointing out that not every action that's performed concurrently to expressing an opinion is just an expression of a belief (if I mutilate you, that I'm doing so to carve "Biden 2024" on your chest doesn't make my action protected political speech). So the fact that some people were sanctioned while expressing some ideas doesn't mean that the ideas themselves are the sole cause for their punishment, which is why I keep looking for any conservative idea that isn't expressed on Twitter. For example, the opinion that there are only two genders is widely expressed on Twitter without censorship, yet misgendering individuals could be sexual harassment performed in the course of expressing that opinion.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #452

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All of these ideas/notions/opinions/stories were very widely disseminated on Twitter to an audience of millions (BTW, the legality of Trump's behaviour, including what exactly he urged his followers to do, is under ongoing investigation). The suppression of the Post's story on Hunter Biden might have been an overreaction, that story itself was all over Twitter (that's how I heard about it). It's possible some tweets…

"I assume a claim could be made (although it would be hard to support) that, on average, more conservatives are suspended than progressives for similar behaviour" Thanks, that pretty much wraps it up.

Exactly. We don't know whether or not that's true; what we do know is that no conservative ideas are suppressed.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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post #498

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That some accounts were suspended under specific circumstances does not mean that conservative content is suppressed. Potential bias in moderation policies of specific behaviours/events and the matter of suppressing ideas are two separate issues (although the moderation of the Hunter Biden story, as I mentioned earlier, was probably a mistake). Twitter is flooded with pro-Putin, anti-vaxx, stolen election, and "only…

> That some accounts were suspended under specific circumstances does not mean that conservative content is suppressed. I never said anything about "Conservative content is being suppressed", which is in and of itself an incredibly vague and arbitrarily defined assertion. The commenter you replied to was the one who said it. Hopefully my points are clearer than that, but there is some overlap. > Potential bias in mod…

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