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Re: TextMate 2

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Post by aerique »

blissofbeing wrote: post #102

I really liked the web preview of TM1. But its gone in this version of TM2. :( No other editor has this functionality, except maybe espresso[1], but I don't really like their solution. Nor am I that happy with http://livereload.com/ as it only updates on save. As a front end dev, I want a live preview in my editor that autoupdates on each key press, this makes prototyping so much faster. I guess its time to start wor…

Can you please expand on this live preview thing so people can add it to Emacs?

Re: TextMate 2

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Post by dorian-graph »

chubs wrote: post #42
frou_dh wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Sublime2 dev builds have slowed as of late so I was wondering if the author was prepping for final release to steal TM2's thunder.

I was wondering similarly: Dev work on ST2 seems to have stopped altogether. Which is a pity, because it really was shaping up to be a winner. But there are still plenty of features missing. Now i'm using chocolatapp, which seems to be moving along briskly and now has a better feature set.

Sorry if this is a tired question, but, does Chocolat have vim bindings or are there any plans for it to?

Re: TextMate 2

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Post by blissofbeing »

aerique wrote: post #111
blissofbeing wrote: post #102

I really liked the web preview of TM1. But its gone in this version of TM2. :( No other editor has this functionality, except maybe espresso[1], but I don't really like their solution. Nor am I that happy with http://livereload.com/ as it only updates on save. As a front end dev, I want a live preview in my editor that autoupdates on each key press, this makes prototyping so much faster. I guess its time to start wor…

Can you please expand on this live preview thing so people can add it to Emacs?

Sure.

A live preview window is a web preview window that is attached to another window (or buffer I suppose).

The live preview window is basically a web browser window that auto-updates on each keypress from the attached editor window.

Espresso and Chocolat have this functionality, but it looks like these editors simply refresh the whole page on every keypress. This constant refreshing causes a flicker on each keypress and makes me turn it off because I don't like the constant flickering.

Livereload is similar because it refreshes the entire browser window on every file save. Its not instant so its not an ideal solution for me.

TM1 seems to only update that text that is updated, no flickering, possibly through some iframe injection technique, I find the iframe injection technique[1] much easier on the eyes because there isn't a page flicker on each keypress.

So, on to make some plugins... :)

[1]http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/how-to...

Re: TextMate 2

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Post by grundprinzip »

rayiner wrote: post #68
mgrouchy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine all three are superior to TM2, especially Vim and Emacs, after you bust through the learning curve no point ever going back.

Programming on a laptop dramatically changes the cost/benefit of keyboard-heavy interfaces, IMHO. E.g. it's almost as quick for me to flick the cursor to switch tabs as it is to type a chorded keyboard shortcut to switch buffers, especially factoring in the ability to look and think about what buffer I want before initiating any movement.

Aquamacs has fullscreen support and for homebrew there are a few patches out that will enable fullscreen for vanilla emacs.

Re: TextMate 2

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Post by aerique »

blissofbeing wrote: post #114
aerique wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please expand on this live preview thing so people can add it to Emacs?

Sure. A live preview window is a web preview window that is attached to another window (or buffer I suppose). The live preview window is basically a web browser window that auto-updates on each keypress from the attached editor window. Espresso and Chocolat have this functionality, but it looks like these editors simply refresh the whole page on every keypress. This constant refreshing causes a flicker on each keypre…

Thanks!

Re: TextMate 2

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Post by Groxx »

billpatrianakos wrote: post #88
JonnieCache wrote: post #85

Meanwhile the sublime text 2 guy knocks out sweet new features every couple of weeks like it ain't no thing. Just sayin'

Yeah you have a point there. There are a ton of people knocking out new versions daily. My favorite editor's developer, Chocolat ( http://chocolatapp.com ) has been updating his editor almost daily for the past few days! In any case, why is it so important for TextMate to get to 2.0? This is an honest question. I understand that software needs minor bug fixes and patches so it can continue to be stable, run well desp…

It's one of the best editors out there, easily. And it's one of the most stable. The current version is fantastic in almost every way... but it has its hiccups, and I see no reason to deny that they exist.

Top on my list is the fact that doing a find-in-project causes TextMate to freeze for 30 seconds and consume a gigabyte of memory that it's reluctant to release. Then there's its inability to handle very-wide lines, wrapped or not (it crawls after a couple thousand characters, and simply shoves all the characters together after ~10k or so (haven't tried in a while)). Or that its 'find' doesn't highlight all matches, or have a nice shiny highlight-marker in the scrollbar like I've been ruined with by Chrome.

I'm eager for 2.0, to see what it is, but 1 is good and there are alternatives, so I'm not sure what the fervor is for, aside from its delay being absolutely huge.

Re: TextMate 2

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Post by jorisw »

blissofbeing wrote: post #102

I really liked the web preview of TM1. But its gone in this version of TM2. :( No other editor has this functionality, except maybe espresso[1], but I don't really like their solution. Nor am I that happy with http://livereload.com/ as it only updates on save. As a front end dev, I want a live preview in my editor that autoupdates on each key press, this makes prototyping so much faster. I guess its time to start wor…

Try out Coda by Panic. IMHO the best editor out there.

http://panic.com/coda

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