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Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by rnd0 »

squarefoot wrote: post #33
aeturnum wrote: post #11

> Microsoft Linux Man, what a time to be alive! Who would have thought it. Edit: who's extending, embracing and extinguishing now?!

Still Microsoft, although after a change of tactics. They don't want to kill Linux anymore, but something even more dangerous: controlling it by making their one the accepted corporate standard ("Nobody was ever fired for using MS Linux", etc). The day they push some proprietary or oddly licensed technology to be integrated into their Linux is the day a thousands alerts should be raised into the community. Then will…

>Still Microsoft

Here, here. I haven't seen anything yet that isn't straight out of the MS playbook on this.

Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by Someone1234 »

bnjms wrote: post #13

Why doesn’t MS use Server Core? If they don’t why would anyone use Server at all? Is AD even worthwhile anymore for a new company?

I suspect Microsoft's vision is for you to use Azure AD with site-local Read Only Domain Controllers running headless on Server Core in case of internet or Azure AD outages. Server Core is more competition to headful Windows Server, rather than Linux in particular.

The only great argument for running Windows Server is Exchange and Active Directory (or IIS for legacy .Net Framework applications). That being said though, Exchange is so janky you're better off outsourcing that if at all possible.

Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by noptd »

bitwize wrote: post #19

Makes me think of Eric S. Raymond's erotic fanfic: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764 If this is going to be a desktop offering from Microsoft, I think it will be for remote cloud and potentially WSL2 use only. The future of desktop Linux is a VM under Windows.

>The future of desktop Linux is a VM under Windows

If Microsoft has their way, you mean.

Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by mianos »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #27
bnjms wrote: post #13

Why doesn’t MS use Server Core? If they don’t why would anyone use Server at all? Is AD even worthwhile anymore for a new company?

> Is AD even worthwhile anymore for a new company? Probably but Samba already does AD so you don't need Microsoft to do it. I guess PolKit at some point may offer similar functionality as group policy.

Even though it is possible to run an AD with samba, it requires more than just clickety click on a bunch of boxes and MS AD is quite a large very functional product.

Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by p_l »

jacooper wrote: post #20
noinsight wrote: post #18

No. Microsoft will buy Canonical for Ubuntu and that sweet, sweet developer mindshare. Ubuntu is the developer distro after all. Ubuntu will become Microsoft Linux.

Is this really realistic ? Why would Microsoft get into the Linux Enterprise market?

Microsoft actually bought a Gentoo based distro in container space - Flatcar Linux (which is a direct continuation of CoreOS that was bought and killed by RedHat)

Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by gerdesj »

mianos wrote: post #56
encryptluks2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is AD even worthwhile anymore for a new company? Probably but Samba already does AD so you don't need Microsoft to do it. I guess PolKit at some point may offer similar functionality as group policy.

Even though it is possible to run an AD with samba, it requires more than just clickety click on a bunch of boxes and MS AD is quite a large very functional product.

It is absolutely wank compared to eDirectory but I'll be whistling in the wind on that one!

eDir is what AD should have been.

Re: Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?

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Post by metadat »

danielheath wrote: post #32
thaumasiotes wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still a bit off; Google's index clearly contains content that wasn't present on the page at the "time of indexing". Whatever content appeared on the page after Google indexed it is something Google shouldn't know about.

Googles indexing defers javascript execution. If comments are loaded via JS, they'll appear on the index with the timestamp the page was fetched, not the time its script was executed.

HN uses notoriously scant amounts of JS, and not at all for comments, so this doesn't explain the puzzle of odd indexing behavior.
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