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Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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> I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. Oh, sweet summer children and children of recession free economies for IT. If job openings fall to 10-20-30% of current ones and tens, hundreds of thousands of IT workers are fired, good luck getting hired quickly, when any of the few good remaining job opening has hundreds of good applicants. We'll be back to the days of: Sure, you can…

Can we please retire this "sweet summer child" thing? It is annoying af, rude, and likely never written by anyone over 30.

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Attacking the phrasing is not what we're looking for here at HN. The meaning of their comment is clear.

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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4 months is relatively generous but... > if you can't find a new job in 4 months, it's on you, This statement feels _wrong_. We are all subject to macro trends that we don't have control over. They impact our lives. Even the well off tech people but especially people in other industries.

Good luck finding a job in this economy now. It's tough for everyone, even the most skilled. Many companies have outright hiring freezes. I just read that Amazon now has a hiring freeze for all corporate jobs, previously this only impacted retail, stores etc

As someone who trains a _lot_ of junior engineers and data scientists, it’s harder than 2021 but for an experienced engineer it’s frankly not that hard to find work right now.

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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Recruiters are always willing to waste your time especially since their job is to provide their employers options, and besides they need their pay as well. If they aren't recruiting, then they aren't justifying their own salaries. So while you might be getting interview or connection requests, that doesn't correlate to actual hiring.

They mine you CV for info and use that for lead generation.

how so?

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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post #747

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> I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. Oh, sweet summer children and children of recession free economies for IT. If job openings fall to 10-20-30% of current ones and tens, hundreds of thousands of IT workers are fired, good luck getting hired quickly, when any of the few good remaining job opening has hundreds of good applicants. We'll be back to the days of: Sure, you can…

I think that scenario is increasingly unlikely. Unlike the past two downturns, there are vastly more mature companies with devs essential to their business models.

SO MANY more experienced devs to fill those jobs nowadays, though!

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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> I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. Oh, sweet summer children and children of recession free economies for IT. If job openings fall to 10-20-30% of current ones and tens, hundreds of thousands of IT workers are fired, good luck getting hired quickly, when any of the few good remaining job opening has hundreds of good applicants. We'll be back to the days of: Sure, you can…

Can we please retire this "sweet summer child" thing? It is annoying af, rude, and likely never written by anyone over 30.

So far as I know, it's also not common amongst those of us who are over 50.

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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* Severance pay. We will pay 14 weeks of severance for all departing employees, and more for those with longer tenure. That is, those departing will be paid until at least February 21st 2023. * Bonus. We will pay our 2022 annual bonus for all departing employees, regardless of their departure date. (It will be prorated for people hired in 2022.) * PTO. We’ll pay for all unused PTO time (including in regions where tha…

I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. I do agree this is generous af. Most companies just give out minimum severance. No acceleration of vesting. Healthcare continues for maybe 1-2 months. I know at my current company, I will lose all PTO.

They are playing the long game

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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I've been a continuously hired coder for 20 years, with zero qualifications, and have never experienced anything but demand even in recession. There's always non FAANG boring crud apps to code.

Your first job would have been at the tail end of the dot com bust. That was a fairly tough time to start. By 04-05 tech was back and has been ever since. Tech didn’t see layoffs, like we are seeing now, in 2008. So you have 1, maybe 2, data points?

Yes. I didn't claim it wasn't anecdata

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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I've been a continuously hired coder for 20 years, with zero qualifications, and have never experienced anything but demand even in recession. There's always non FAANG boring crud apps to code.

I want to write boring ground-up CRUD apps. How do I find that work? I'm tired of big distributed systems that are too complex for a person to grok.

Governments. Oh how I love government work.

As a consultant, earn 2x as much and work on legacy systems that offer a lifetime of work.

It really is quite wonderful

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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Unlimited PTO sucks for employees. It isn't the case in every state but some states, including mine, require employers to pay out PTO upon separation. So having unlimited automatically means you get paid out nothing on separation, a bad deal for employees. If you're allowed to take time off, then you have earned it but because of the policy, you don't get to realize the benefit of having earned it upon separation. Un…

> Unlimited PTO also discourages using PTO because nobody wants to be seen as the person taking the most vacation. That depends on the management. I took more vacation at Netflix than anywhere else (where we had unlimited PTO). But the management made a point of talking about their extended vacations and making sure all the VPs took at least a few weeks of vacation every year to set a good example. There was no stigm…

Im curious did anyone take 2 months?

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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Can we please retire this "sweet summer child" thing? It is annoying af, rude, and likely never written by anyone over 30.

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Attacking the phrasing is not what we're looking for here at HN. The meaning of their comment is clear.

I found the sweet summer child thing to be snarky as well for what it's worth.
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