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Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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Stripe stresses me out. I really cringe worrying about having too many financial eggs in the Stripe basket. But Paypal is no alternative and traditional CC processors are awful. How does one hedge their bets with Stripe? I worry one day we'll hit some transaction "trigger" and then all our money will get locked up in Stripe with no customer support recourse. I fear being "too successful" with no recourse if I depend…

There is Adyen over in Europe. I don't know/doubt they do as much business as Stripe but they aren't insignificant

That’s a bit of an understatement

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Amazon and Google are always calling, even now I gets emails from both. Amazon recruiters just spam me. Shoot your shot there if interested

Recruiters are always willing to waste your time especially since their job is to provide their employers options, and besides they need their pay as well. If they aren't recruiting, then they aren't justifying their own salaries. So while you might be getting interview or connection requests, that doesn't correlate to actual hiring.

They mine you CV for info and use that for lead generation.

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I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. I do agree this is generous af. Most companies just give out minimum severance. No acceleration of vesting. Healthcare continues for maybe 1-2 months. I know at my current company, I will lose all PTO.

> I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. Oh, sweet summer children and children of recession free economies for IT. If job openings fall to 10-20-30% of current ones and tens, hundreds of thousands of IT workers are fired, good luck getting hired quickly, when any of the few good remaining job opening has hundreds of good applicants. We'll be back to the days of: Sure, you can…

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what is "unused PTO" - I thought every company was now on the unlimited/zero PTO model

Unlimited PTO sucks for employees. It isn't the case in every state but some states, including mine, require employers to pay out PTO upon separation. So having unlimited automatically means you get paid out nothing on separation, a bad deal for employees. If you're allowed to take time off, then you have earned it but because of the policy, you don't get to realize the benefit of having earned it upon separation. Un…

I have actually received performance review notes at my current and former job (both with unlimited PTO) for not taking enough PTO...

But in both cases, the CEOs actively encouraged PTO. At my current job, people take PTO regularly (several people at my department have taken roughly 3-4 months of PTO over the course of the past 12 months, and were promoted). What matters isn't time-in-seat, but whether tasks get done.

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> I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. Oh, sweet summer children and children of recession free economies for IT. If job openings fall to 10-20-30% of current ones and tens, hundreds of thousands of IT workers are fired, good luck getting hired quickly, when any of the few good remaining job opening has hundreds of good applicants. We'll be back to the days of: Sure, you can…

I've been a continuously hired coder for 20 years, with zero qualifications, and have never experienced anything but demand even in recession. There's always non FAANG boring crud apps to code.

I want to write boring ground-up CRUD apps. How do I find that work? I'm tired of big distributed systems that are too complex for a person to grok.

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It's important to understand that growing companies are not laying off because they have 'nothing for staff to do'. This isn't likely a situation of 'Ford Motorcars had a bad 3 quarters, and sales forecasts are way down, we have to close two plants'. They are laying off to improve efficiencies on paper, capture some excess value created by those staffers (hey - you built that thing, great, bye, don't need you! For no…

The whole company is an optimisation thing not a necessary thing.

Optimizing for what, and in who's interests?

From the perspective of those who are not shareholders, corporations are just a means of providing some service - even those that are 'necessary'.

It's odd that so many people fight so hard for the 'freedom and rights' of fairly powerful interests, systems which they will never be a part of or benefit from, and which regularly act against their own interests.

There are multiple stakeholders at play, the arbitrary posture of 'optimization for capital' is worse than naive in 2022, we've been through these experiments by now.

There are better ways; we're not even trying.

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No offence, but they're not putting anybody in the electric chair. They're letting people go with pay until almost March - if you can't find a new job in 4 months, it's on you, and maybe they weren't wrong to give you up. A dynamic job market includes hiring and firings. At most they have to apologize for some disruption, and they more than made up for that with the severance packages. And about the language - "fire"…

4 months is relatively generous but... > if you can't find a new job in 4 months, it's on you, This statement feels _wrong_. We are all subject to macro trends that we don't have control over. They impact our lives. Even the well off tech people but especially people in other industries.

Is Stripe not also subject to macro trends?

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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> I feel most decent engineers can get rehired elsewhere with 14 weeks of runway. Oh, sweet summer children and children of recession free economies for IT. If job openings fall to 10-20-30% of current ones and tens, hundreds of thousands of IT workers are fired, good luck getting hired quickly, when any of the few good remaining job opening has hundreds of good applicants. We'll be back to the days of: Sure, you can…

I've been a continuously hired coder for 20 years, with zero qualifications, and have never experienced anything but demand even in recession. There's always non FAANG boring crud apps to code.

In 40+ years in the industry, I've only been unwillingly unemployed for about a month, when the startup I was at imploded (frankly, much to everyone's relief).

Doesn't mean it won't get really bad, or that you'll be happy with what you find.

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Can we please retire this "sweet summer child" thing? It is annoying af, rude, and likely never written by anyone over 30.

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That makes me hate the phrase even more.

Re: Stripe laying off around 14% of workforce

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I've been a continuously hired coder for 20 years, with zero qualifications, and have never experienced anything but demand even in recession. There's always non FAANG boring crud apps to code.

I want to write boring ground-up CRUD apps. How do I find that work? I'm tired of big distributed systems that are too complex for a person to grok.

The trick is to be willing to work for 120k or less, haha

Which, to be fair, is still almost twice the median household income in the USA

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