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Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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I believe the bike-share is their most profitable division. Would it make sense to spin that off? It has a de facto monopoly in many markets it operates in

That's cool, I am just vaguely concerned about it. They seem to have tacitly abandoned it in the East Bay area.

The maintenance for Citibike is also basically nonexistent, many bikes that feel like peddling through mud

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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This is all pretty standard culling. They're just trying to scare people into recession think (i.e. don't try to negotiate a raise) and rehire cheaper outsourced or--get ready for this buzz word--"insourced" labor. Remember, the big tech cos also increased their work force sizes dramatically during COVID, so a more aggressive reduction push is understandable.

What would "insourced" mean exactly? Cheap remote domestic hires?

Yes. They hire devs from the Midwest instead of major metro areas.

The term was coined during the Obama era[0] and I've seen it shopped around by a few US dev shops recently. It's also called "near shoring" or "rural outsourcing."

[0]: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/01/11/everyth...

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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People have been making these doomer claims since 00s to my memory and all that has been proven since then is we don't have enough software engineers.

I almost feel like coding is currently what typing was 60 years ago. "Typist" isn't really a job anymore, but stenographer and transcriptionist are. Likewise, I think that coding needs to become something basically everyone can do a tiny bit of, but only a relatively smaller group do as their entire job.

Yes my algebra professor used to say same thing almost 20 years ago now

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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> get 70% or more correct when guessing who will be laid off. What happens when it's the managers themselves who are useless, overpaid, and can't evaluate the team for actual efficacy?

One comment in the Stripe layoff thread was someone who's manager didn't get to put any input into the process. Honestly its funny reading threads like this with people beating their chest about useless coworkers. Instead of thinking of useless coworkers and colleagues, think about what percent of the entire industry that's working on things with no hard output, no interest in profitability, banking on free money tha…

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Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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Given Lyft have (had?) an office in semi-fascist state of Republic of Belarus, there's no wonder they are laying off someone. I double checked, the evidence of Minsk office is washed from their career portal. Yet, the old listings are there[0].

UPD. One more link was located[1]

[0] https://startup.jobs/backend-engineer-all-teams-minsk-lyft-1...

[1] https://park.by/en/residents/lift-bieler/

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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What would "insourced" mean exactly? Cheap remote domestic hires?

Yes. They hire devs from the Midwest instead of major metro areas. The term was coined during the Obama era[0] and I've seen it shopped around by a few US dev shops recently. It's also called "near shoring" or "rural outsourcing." [0]: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/01/11/everyth...

I've heard "near-shoring" before but always in the context of hiring workers from Mexico or other countries further south that share time-zones with the US.

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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Ask HN: Isn't recession just mass hysteria ? Layoffs leading to more layoffs leading to the entire economy slowing down ?

In this case, rising interest rates have a very direct negative impact on new investments. As new investments contract, demand shrinks for services across the industry. As demand shrinks, fewer employees are needed and companies need to reduce headcount to avoid overspending relative to revenues. There is a cascading effect, but it would be a mistake to attribute it all to a big psychological mistake. When demand goe…

Critically, tech workers are compensated highly because they are working on investments. We're not laying bricks where it's easy to measure what we accomplished in a given day, we are usually building products and tech stacks that are projected to bring in FUTURE cash.

When interest rates were held low, the planning horizon was very long and we got a huge expansion in future-looking projects. Now that horizon is shrinking and disproportionately impacting the jobs that are associated with future investments rather than ongoing operations.

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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What would "insourced" mean exactly? Cheap remote domestic hires?

Yes. They hire devs from the Midwest instead of major metro areas. The term was coined during the Obama era[0] and I've seen it shopped around by a few US dev shops recently. It's also called "near shoring" or "rural outsourcing." [0]: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/01/11/everyth...

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Powell has previously said that he wants higher unemployment. He believes this is the only way to decrease demand and bring down prices. > The labor market continues to be out of balance, with demand for workers substantially exceeding the supply of available workers. The labor force participation rate showed a welcome uptick in August but is little changed since the beginning of the year. FOMC participants expect su…

Zorg-onomics? "Excuse me, sir. The council is worried about the economy heating up. They wondered if it'd be possible to fire 500000. Maybe from one of the smaller companies where no one would notice..." "Fire one million". https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119116/

Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg! Put some respect on his name

Re: Lyft to lay off about 700 employees in second round of job cuts

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> He's absolutely determined to increase unemployment via rate hikes. either i'm deluded or there has to a better way to run an economy than this...

Their goal is to reduce inflation. Increasing unemployment, is a side effect of rate hikes but ultimately, reduces demand for consumer goods thus reducing inflation.

Inflation in staple supplies and food are radically inflated too and they aren’t reducing when people go on unemployment.
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