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Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Does anyone else think it's brilliant that he put advertisements inside his own thread?

If it was for some random app or gadget I’d be mad but it’s literally trying to save humanity so I give it a pass. We need to be talking about mitigating and surviving catastrophic climate change more, not less.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

#133
post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

Imagine it is a text and you can mark any paragraph. You can save that paragraph, like it, or even reply to it. So the interaction can grow like tentacles (edit: or rather like a tree). Right now, I could make a comment on either your first or second paragraph, or on your entire comment. However, there is no way to determine which category my reply falls into until you have read it entirely. On a platform like Twitte…

This is brilliant, I had never thought about it like this before. I’d maybe say grow like a tree rather than tentacles although you might have a point in that if you’re speaking with the wrong person it could be pretty cthulonic.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Unsolicited phone calls are somewhat illegal, but it's dependent on circumstances. It's the same with email spam and mail spam. One person's spam is another person's cold call. Where do you draw the line? Is mailing a flier with coupons spam? Technically yes, but some people find value in it. In the US, spam is protected speech, but as always, no company is required to give anybody a platform.

> In the US, spam is protected speech [citation needed] Doesn't the CAN-SPAM act explicitly declare otherwise?

I was under the impression that CAN-SPAM applies to email, not user generated content on the internet at large

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine it is a text and you can mark any paragraph. You can save that paragraph, like it, or even reply to it. So the interaction can grow like tentacles (edit: or rather like a tree). Right now, I could make a comment on either your first or second paragraph, or on your entire comment. However, there is no way to determine which category my reply falls into until you have read it entirely. On a platform like Twitte…

What you're saying is that we should optimise the way we debate things to please the algorithm and maximise user engagement instead of maximising quality content and encouraging deep reflexions The truth is people can't focus for more than 15 seconds so instead of reading a well researched and deep article or book that might offer sources, nuances, &c. they'll click "like" and "retweet" whoever vomited something that…

> What you're saying is that we should optimise the way we debate things to please the algorithm and maximise user engagement instead of maximising quality content and encouraging deep reflexions

Not at all, in my opinion being able to interact with every piece of an exchange allows to dig down into specific points of a debate.

There is a soft stop at the end of every tweet because it's a conversation and not a presentation. It's an interactive piece of information and not a printed newspaper. You can interact during the thread and it might change its outcome.

When you are the person interacting, it's similar to a real life conversation. You can cut someone and talk about something else at any time. The focus conversation will shift for a short moment and then come back to the main topic.

For someone arriving after the fact, you have a time machine of the entire conversation.

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About the link, it is only the first result on Google because I don't use those services and not me vetting for this specific one. I also use ad blockers at all levels (from pi-hole to browser extension to VPN level blocking), so I don't see ads online.

If I go meta for a second, this is the perfect example of how breaking ideas into different tweets can be useful.

Were I to share your comment on its own, it contains that information about a link that is not useful to anyone but you and I.

For someone reading our comments, they have to go through this interaction on the ads and this product. If instead this were two tweets it would have allowed us to comment on this in parallel. If it was HN, imagine if you had made two replies under my comments and we could have commented under each. However, that's the wrong way on this platform.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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> Moderating spam is very interesting: it is almost universally regarded as okay to ban (i.e. CENSORSHIP) but spam is in no way illegal. Interesting, in my country spam is very much illegal and I would hazard a guess that it is also illegal in the US, similar to how littering, putting up posters on peoples buildings/cars/walls, graffiti (a form of spam), and so on is also illegal. If I received the amount of spam I g…

Unsolicited phone calls are somewhat illegal, but it's dependent on circumstances. It's the same with email spam and mail spam. One person's spam is another person's cold call. Where do you draw the line? Is mailing a flier with coupons spam? Technically yes, but some people find value in it. In the US, spam is protected speech, but as always, no company is required to give anybody a platform.

> In the US, spam is protected speech, but as always, no company is required to give anybody a platform.

Commercial speech in the US is not protected speech and may be subject to a host of government regulation [0]. The government has broad powers to regulate the time, place, and content of commercial speech in ways that it does not for ordinary speech.

[0] See https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/commercial_speech

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

#137
It's kinda funny that many of the problems he's mentioning is exactly how moderation on reddit currently works.

Hell, newly revamped "block user" mode got extra gaslighting as a feature, now person blocked can't reply to anyone under the comment of person that blocked them, not just the person that blocked them so anyone that doesn't like people discussing how they are wrong can just ban the people that disagree with them and they will not be able to answer to any of their comments.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

#138
post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

Imagine it is a text and you can mark any paragraph. You can save that paragraph, like it, or even reply to it. So the interaction can grow like tentacles (edit: or rather like a tree). Right now, I could make a comment on either your first or second paragraph, or on your entire comment. However, there is no way to determine which category my reply falls into until you have read it entirely. On a platform like Twitte…

> Right now, I could make a comment on either your first or second paragraph, or on your entire comment. However, there is no way to determine which category my reply falls into until you have read it entirely. On a platform like Twitter, where there can be up to 100,000 comments on a given piece of content, this is very useful.

Oh, look, I have managed to reply to your second paragraph without having to use twatter, how quaint!

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

#139

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To be honest, I would not disagree with that. Very 'the only winning move is not to play'.

To be honest, and maybe this will be panned, but the real answer is for people to grow thicker skin and stop putting one's feelings on a pedestal above all.

Paul Pelosi's skin wasn't thick enough to deflect hammers.

(OK, that wasn't a twitter problem, but the attack on him was 100% a product of unmoderated media in general)

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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It resulted in people _saying_ all those things happened, but never did.

You mean like this list of banned subreddits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti... "The community (Beatingwomen), which featured graphic depictions of violence against women, was banned after its moderators were found to be sharing users' personal information online" "According to Reddit administrators, photos of gymnast McKayla Maroney and MTV actress Liz Lee, shared to 130,000 people on p…

You mean like the people who are telling us that happened also said:

> CNN is not publishing “HanA*holeSolo’s” name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

>CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-use...

Yeah, I totally trust these people to not lie.

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