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Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by dariusj18 »

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

It seems apt that the most engaged comment in the thread is a meta comment which derails any conversation about the content of the post itself.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by lm28469 »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #82
lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

Imagine it is a text and you can mark any paragraph. You can save that paragraph, like it, or even reply to it. So the interaction can grow like tentacles (edit: or rather like a tree). Right now, I could make a comment on either your first or second paragraph, or on your entire comment. However, there is no way to determine which category my reply falls into until you have read it entirely. On a platform like Twitte…

What you're saying is that we should optimise the way we debate things to please the algorithm and maximise user engagement instead of maximising quality content and encouraging deep reflexions

The truth is people can't focus for more than 15 seconds so instead of reading a well researched and deep article or book that might offer sources, nuances, &c. they'll click "like" and "retweet" whoever vomited something that remotely goes their way while ignoring the rest

> If you ignore it and read it as an entire text it is not very different from a regular article or long form comment

It is extremely different as each piece is written as a independent 10s thought ready to be consumed and retweeted. Reading it on threadreaderapp makes it even more obvious, your brain need to work 300% harder to process the semi incoherent flow, some blogs written by 15 years old are more coherent and pleasant to read than this

btw this is what I see on your link, more ads: https://i.imgur.com/rhaXStj.png

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

dariusj18 wrote: post #111
lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

It seems apt that the most engaged comment in the thread is a meta comment which derails any conversation about the content of the post itself.

The medium is the message.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by filoleg »

threeseed wrote: post #89
blantonl wrote: post #16

This really was an outstanding read and take on Elon, Twitter, and what's coming up. But it literally could not have been posted in a worse medium for communicating this message. I felt like I had to pat my head and rub my tummy at the same time reading through all this, and to share it succinctly with colleagues resulted in me spending a good 15 minutes cutting and pasting the content. I've never understood people p…

It was incoherent rambling and none of really works for Twitter. Twitter is ultimately at the behest of its advertisers who are constantly on a knife edge about whether to bother using it or not. We have already seen GM and L'Oreal pull ad spend and many more will follow if their moderation policies are not in-line with community standards. If Musk wants to make Twitter unprofitable then sure relax the moderation oth…

L'Oreal didn't pull their twitter ad spend[0].

0. https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/loral-suspe...

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by awb »

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

What’s funny is he’s arguing that moderation should be based on behavior, not content. And that you could identify spam if it was written in Loren Ipsum.

If this thread and self-referential Tweeting was written in Loren Ipsum, it would definitely look like spam to me.

So I guess I disagree with one of the main points. For me, the content matters much more than the behavior. Pretty sure that’s how the Supreme Court interprets 1A rights as well. The frequency and intensity of the speech hasn’t played a part in any 1A cases that I can remember, it’s exclusively if the content of the speech violates someone’s rights and then deciding which outcome leads to bigger problems, allowing the speech or not.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by drewbeck »

miiiiiike wrote: post #49
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

It was a massive stream of tweets, with two long digressions, and several embeds. The only thing that would have made it worse is if every tweet faded in on scroll. If we're going to pedantically point out rules, why don't we add one that says "No unrolled Twitter threads."?

If we’re going to pedantically point out rules why don’t we cook hamburgers on the roof of parliament? Or something else that isn’t pedantically point out rules?

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by mbesto »

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

And hilariously he starts with "How do you solve the content moderation problems on Twitter?" and never actually answer it. Just rambles on about a dissection of the problem. Guess we know now why content moderation was never "solved" at Reddit, nor will it ever be.
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