Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation • Hacker News Board

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by r721 » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:23 PM UTC

lrm242 wrote: post #28

incomingpain wrote: post #6

This CEO did the same thread 6 months ago and was blasted off the internet. You can see his thread here: https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1514938507407421440 edit/ Guess it is working now? The most important post in his older thread: https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1514939100444311560 He never ever justifies this point. The world absolutely has not changed in the context of censorship. Censorship apologetics notwi…

Huh? What do you mean unavailable? I see it just fine.

I can confirm - I saw "this tweet is unavailable" message or something similarly worded on first click too. Reloading fixed that.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by polytely » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:25 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

I've never understood this, it's just reading: you start at the beginning of tweet, you read it, then go to the next tweet and read it. How is that different from reading paragraphs?

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by Spivak » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:25 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #22

hourago wrote: post #4

> Our current climate of political polarization makes it easy to think itʻs about the content of the speech, or hate speech, or misinformation, or censorship, or etc etc. Are we sure that it is not the other way around? Didn't social platforms created or increased polarization? I always see this comments from social platforms that take as fact that society is polarized and they work hard to fix it, when I believe tha…

Real society is not that polarized. If you talk to real people they mostly have moderate political opinions. But they don't tweet about politics. Twitter is not a real place.

But unfortunately real people are influenced and impacted by the fiction.

If far right political bullshit would stay online and out of my state’s general assembly that would be such a positive change.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by Covzire » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

jameskilton wrote: post #9

Every single social media platform that has ever existed makes the same fundamental mistake. They believe that they just have to remove or block the bad actors and bad content and that will make the platform good. The reality is everyone , myself included, can be and will be a bad actor. How do you build and run a "social media" product when the very act of letting anyone respond to anyone with anything is itself the…

Give the user exclusive control over what content they can see. The platform should enforce legal actions against users only, as far as bans are concerned.

Everything else, like being allowed to spam or post too quickly, is a bug, and bugs should be addressed in the open.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by leephillips » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

mikkergp wrote: post #32

MichaelZuo wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't Twitter give the option of a whitelist (Just who you follow + their retweets) already?

Not really, even the it still does recommended tweets and I don’t want to see retweets or likes and you have to turn that off per person.

Yes really: you can get this experience with Twitter: https://lee-phillips.org/howtotwitter/

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by csours » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

Is there a better name than "rational jail" for the following phenomenon:

We are having a rational, non-controversial, shared-fact based discussion. Suddenly the first party in the conversation goes off on a tangent and starts saying values or emotions based statements instead of facts. The other party then gets angry and or confused. The first party then gets angry and or confused.

The first party did not realize they had broken out of the rational jail that the conversation was taking place in; they thought they were still being rational. The second party detected some idea that did not fit with their rational dataset, and detected a jailbreak, and this upset them.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by hunglee2 » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

"there will be NO relation between the topic of the content and whether you moderate it, because itʻs the specific posting behavior thatʻs a problem"

some interesting thoughts from Yishan, a novel way to look at the problem.

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by rideontime » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:27 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

But the twitter thread makes it much easier to pivot into talking about his latest startup that's totally unrelated!

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by miiiiiike » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:28 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #40

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

It was a massive stream of tweets, with two long digressions, and several embeds. The only thing that would have made it worse is if every tweet faded in on scroll.

If we're going to pedantically point out rules, why don't we add one that says "No unrolled Twitter threads."?

Re: Ex-Reddit CEO on Twitter moderation

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Post by lm28469 » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 1:28 PM UTC

polytely wrote: post #42

lm28469 wrote: post #11

Reading these threads on twitter is like listening to a friend having a bad mdma trip replaying his whole emotional life to you in a semi incoherent diarrhea like stream of thoughts Please write a book, or at the very least an article... posting on twitter is like writing something on a piece of paper, showing it to your best friend and worst enemy before throwing it in the trash

I've never understood this, it's just reading: you start at the beginning of tweet, you read it, then go to the next tweet and read it. How is that different from reading paragraphs?

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