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The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by Volrath89 »

trillic wrote: post #13

Early to sleep, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise. In my case I have no choice, my SO works in medicine so I’m up when she’s up at 5 whether I like it or not. I’ve gotten a lot more productive since we started sharing a space. Is it the early rise, or the constant presence of the opposite sex?

> Is it the early rise, or the constant presence of the opposite sex?

Funny because for me it was totally the opposite. When I lived together with my ex wife it was super difficult for me to wake up early, because she didn't, so I was just so tempted to go back and cuddle with her until 8 AM when she actually woke up.

During the pandemic because we were both working from home, we'd always take a nap together after lunch as well.

Now that I am divorced I have no problem getting up at 5:30 AM everyday and avoiding daily naps. And I am also way more productive compared to when I was married.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by mushtar »

It's actually the opposite from my experience. It's very easy to get asked to work late (getting asked "hey, can you look at the build blocker?" towards the end of the day) compared to being asked to work early (barring having to acomodate any meetings with time zone differences).

It's just an anecdote, but I've never once been asked to work early in my software development career.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by cassianoleal »

mushtar wrote: post #103

It's actually the opposite from my experience. It's very easy to get asked to work late (getting asked "hey, can you look at the build blocker?" towards the end of the day) compared to being asked to work early (barring having to acomodate any meetings with time zone differences). It's just an anecdote, but I've never once been asked to work early in my software development career.

Are you saying you've never been in a workplace where people are expected to be in the office / online / at standup by 9:00 or 10:00?

Being asked to work late _on top of_ having started the day in the morning is hardly the opposite of what the OP is arguing about.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by cassianoleal »

foogazi wrote: post #88

There is no conspiracy or rigging- it’s because of sunlight > Additionally for working parents, the hours one can work largely must coincide with school hours as well as times of day when the more affordable option of group childcare, as opposed to private childcare, is available. Dual working parents, like compulsory schooling, are a recent invention The morning work/school schedule is because of sunlight Who would…

> The morning work/school schedule is because of sunlight

Does it move up when it's still dark at 10AM?

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by cassianoleal »

YokoZar wrote: post #5
im-a-baby wrote: post #2

Is it possible that morning people are more productive than people who prefer later times of day. This article is filled with things that are "biased" towards morning people, but didn't actually provide any evidence that this bias is unfounded.

The article mentions that people with late chronotypes get less sleep due to early work hours, and that lack of sleep causes productivity issues.

It's not just less sleep.

In my personal case (I know, anecdote blah blah) I can be very productive, happy and more functional if I can consistently sleep for 6-6.5h per night as long as my wake up time is no earlier than 9:30-10:00. I don't even need caffeine at all, and I can still be perfectly fine with the occasional 5-5.5h sleep night.

OTOH, I might have slept 9h every night for days but if I have to be up earlier I will be miserable, my brain will be foggy, I'll have less energy and I tend to injure myself a lot more working out.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by soco »

TapWaterBandit wrote: post #64
orbital223 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen a lot of research (such as [1]) showing that kids waking up early is actually detrimental to them. I feel the causality goes in pretty much the reverse direction that you're implying: the children are forced to get up early to go to school because their parents need to be free of them early and their parents need to be free of them early because they are forced to be at work early. [1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm…

That is talking about adolescents (10-19) not kids. I agree that teenagers should be able to start school later but kids are definitely early birds.

Also because every book insists tucking your kids in at 8pm.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by soco »

nradov wrote: post #70
oblib wrote: post #43

I've never been a morning person, but I have worked circles around some of those who valued that far more than it's worth. Anyone who thinks getting up early makes them superior to those who don't is only boosting their ego. Getting stuff done right it what's truly important.

For many of us, getting stuff done requires real-time collaboration with our colleagues. Even in the software field, only a minority of jobs are primarily based on solo tasks that can be done at odd hours.

For many of us, not all 8 hours of work require real-time collaboration with our colleagues - thank heavens. There's more than enough overlapping to accommodate everybody.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by soco »

deepburner wrote: post #92

I'm so tired of these "jobs are rigged for social people!!!" or morning people or organized people kinds of posts. There's no rigging, if you want to work alone from 10 PM to 6 AM that's in your prerogative but just because most jobs require collaboration or most people prefer to sleep at night (gasp!) and work while the sun is out does not mean it's "unfair" to you; it just means that you're an outlier. Also the ton…

The crux of the topic is that there's always stigma if you're different, and having a different schedule makes you different.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by jemmyw »

So many arguments back and forth in the comments on this one. I am a night owl and always have been. When we had kids it was hard, but my wife and I seemed to revert back to staying up late very quickly. Our kids are homeschooled and usually get up between 8am and 10am. Working from home too means we don't have much pressure which is nice.
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