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Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by ornornor »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #31
londondev45 wrote: post #13

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how? I want this

bootstrapped saas / apple ecosystem apps in niches i'm familiar with. mostly passive recurring revenue (most of my time spent goes into r&d, i chose architectures to minimize ongoing operational needs). i bootstrapped to avoid "working for" investors. and on some projects where i'm working with others, we've formed anarchist coop-like structures to avoid hypocritically subjecting others to the hierarchies i escaped.…

> repeatable playbook-like resources

Is there someplace we can find out more? I’m very curious.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by flamebreath447 »

molsongolden wrote: post #162
flamebreath447 wrote: post #125

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Finding something you love is only momentary. Even if you find something you “love” to do it will have moments where it gets rough, boring, frustrating or cumbersome. We need both work and rest, and typically burnout comes from pushing yourself in situations that are a net negative; either because you are over working in an environment that is compromising something valueable to you or because you don’t actually know…

Any book recs or tips for proper rest?

Two that I highly recommend

1. Subversive Sabbath by A.J. Swoboda

2. Garden City by John Mark Comer

* caveat they are both frameworked in Christian principles but the practical steps to get rest are still very good.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by notpushkin »

balfirevic wrote: post #178
notpushkin wrote: post #118

Holy shit doesn't this sound like me. I've quit my job this August because I couldn't work at all, too. Extremely sorry for the following not-really-related rant/oversharing you're about to read. I think I have ADHD too although I haven't been properly diagnosed. I've been taking Strattera (at some point I've switched to generic atomoxetine) which is the only approved ADHD drug in Russia/CIS, but it only helps someti…

What side effects are you experiencing with Strattera?

Mostly it's anxiety, fever, and overall dizziness. Sometimes I'm also feeling slightly more aggressive (e. g. when something's not working I might wanna punch my laptop, but usually I'm able to calm down quickly).

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by wahnfrieden »

ornornor wrote: post #201
wahnfrieden wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bootstrapped saas / apple ecosystem apps in niches i'm familiar with. mostly passive recurring revenue (most of my time spent goes into r&d, i chose architectures to minimize ongoing operational needs). i bootstrapped to avoid "working for" investors. and on some projects where i'm working with others, we've formed anarchist coop-like structures to avoid hypocritically subjecting others to the hierarchies i escaped.…

> repeatable playbook-like resources Is there someplace we can find out more? I’m very curious.

I bought indiedevstack.com to compile/blog on this but am some months away from getting going. You can follow one of my bizs for now I’ll announce there eventually @manabiSRS

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by bitL »

castlecrasher2 wrote: post #113

Did you get COVID? I'm having similar issues with both work and hobbies and I believe mine stem from the long-term side effects from COVID.

Get an NAD+ booster like Niagen quickly; even a mild Covid seems to deplete a month-worth of NAD+ in 3 days and as it is a required part of any energy reaction in mitochondria, people end up like zombies for months thereafter if they don't replenish it. See:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8831132/

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04809974

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by theGnuMe »

ravenstine wrote: post #33
mozman wrote: post #7

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I’m opening a local metal working business. Running both until I can get a decent income stream. Tech prospects look bleak, I think the party will be over in 10 or less years as engineers are viewed more as a cost vs value add.

> Tech prospects look bleak, I think the party will be over in 10 or less years as engineers are viewed more as a cost vs value add. Seems realistic, though optimistic. I think the party will be over sooner than that, probably in the next 5 or so years, but we'll collectively be in denial about it for at least another 5 years following that.

Idk, we are still in the digital transformation and customers are now easier to reach from anywhere. Add in AI tools and tooling. People will still want to wire these things up. There will always be value at the customer interface. There will also always be open source and then new companies building on open source. We have many multiple database vendors. Multiple OS vendors etc...

I remember the Windows shrink wrap days and everyone predicting doom, and then the internet happened. Next is AI and then the metaverse most likely.

I think the future is bright.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by balfirevic »

notpushkin wrote: post #203
balfirevic wrote: post #178

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What side effects are you experiencing with Strattera?

Mostly it's anxiety, fever, and overall dizziness. Sometimes I'm also feeling slightly more aggressive (e. g. when something's not working I might wanna punch my laptop, but usually I'm able to calm down quickly).

Sounds pretty bad, hope it gets better or you get access to something better. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by notpushkin »

balfirevic wrote: post #208
notpushkin wrote: post #203

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Mostly it's anxiety, fever, and overall dizziness. Sometimes I'm also feeling slightly more aggressive (e. g. when something's not working I might wanna punch my laptop, but usually I'm able to calm down quickly).

Sounds pretty bad, hope it gets better or you get access to something better. Good luck.

Thank you so much!

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Post by ThrowAway1922A »

ornornor wrote: post #186

You have to quit or be fired. Right now. I was in your situation year ago, three years of agony at a mediocre toxic corporate company where our team was responsible for all the problems but were given no time or resources at all to actually fix the root cause. Only firefighting was allowed. I was on medical leave, went back, and eventually was offered to quit without serving my notice period (so 4 months paid without…

> Sick leave while still employed at the company doesn’t let you free yourself from all the pain because you’ll have to go back eventually.

I've not seen anyone put this into words, but yes, absolutely this. The entire time I was out I knew in the back on my mind I was going to have to go back sooner or later. In the few days leading up to going back I was physically ill.

The other thing that sucks is I knew I should be applying for other jobs while on medical leave, but I just couldn't bring myself to. I really needed the time to try and recover (which didn't work out) and I think I managed to only send out a handful of applications during that time.

Thanks for the message, I appreciate it.

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