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The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by YokoZar »

collegeburner wrote: post #4

i think this is a good thing and not "rigged". here's why: 1. you can train yourself to be a morning person. this is coming from someone who is not at all a morning person by nature. so it's not unfair, what it does do is weed out people who don't bother to do so. it selects for disciplined people with a strong work ethic. 2. it is easier to be a night person than a morning person. inertia says it is easier to stay u…

No, you can't. Well, maybe you personally can. But all the actual science says that willpower, sleep hygiene, and sunlight exposure only move the margins a bit for those with inflexible night-time chronotypes.

Doing everything "right" is not going to make a 5am natural sleeper into a morning person, it's going to make them into a 3am natural sleeper.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by version_five »

im-a-baby wrote: post #2

Is it possible that morning people are more productive than people who prefer later times of day. This article is filled with things that are "biased" towards morning people, but didn't actually provide any evidence that this bias is unfounded.

As a counterpoint, I have worked with many "night people" who will work very late into the night on problems, sticking with them until they are solved. I'm a morning person, more by necessity of having other stuff to do in the evening, and I find I end up being more likely to drop a problem without finishing it because I have to leave work. It's all anecdotal, but especially in software, I see how people who have arranged things to work late, without a "hard stop" could also be very productive (even if it's not healthy)

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by trillic »

Early to sleep, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise. In my case I have no choice, my SO works in medicine so I’m up when she’s up at 5 whether I like it or not.

I’ve gotten a lot more productive since we started sharing a space.

Is it the early rise, or the constant presence of the opposite sex?

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by Spooky23 »

I’m sure. It’s pretty obvious. If you have a choice in the matter, early start gives you superpowers and is evidence of discipline.

I typically start work at 7:30. I have about 2-2.5 hours of actual, mostly undisturbed productivity. Early in my career my managers thought I was a genius because I knew everything. I did - because I read stuff.

Nowadays I’m a boss guy, and I’m fully up to speed and ready to go at my 9:15 standup, and half my colleagues are running behind to make the meeting.

Note that I’m not a “morning person”. I hate waking up at 5:30. But my kids need to get to school, my wife tends to start early and I don’t see a point in lounging around. People would be better off focusing on taking care of themselves instead of trying to make laziness some sort of protected medical condition.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by tomrod »

YokoZar wrote: post #11
collegeburner wrote: post #4

i think this is a good thing and not "rigged". here's why: 1. you can train yourself to be a morning person. this is coming from someone who is not at all a morning person by nature. so it's not unfair, what it does do is weed out people who don't bother to do so. it selects for disciplined people with a strong work ethic. 2. it is easier to be a night person than a morning person. inertia says it is easier to stay u…

No, you can't. Well, maybe you personally can. But all the actual science says that willpower, sleep hygiene, and sunlight exposure only move the margins a bit for those with inflexible night-time chronotypes. Doing everything "right" is not going to make a 5am natural sleeper into a morning person, it's going to make them into a 3am natural sleeper.

I wonder whether those studies tried alarms.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by SLWW »

YokoZar wrote: post #11
collegeburner wrote: post #4

i think this is a good thing and not "rigged". here's why: 1. you can train yourself to be a morning person. this is coming from someone who is not at all a morning person by nature. so it's not unfair, what it does do is weed out people who don't bother to do so. it selects for disciplined people with a strong work ethic. 2. it is easier to be a night person than a morning person. inertia says it is easier to stay u…

No, you can't. Well, maybe you personally can. But all the actual science says that willpower, sleep hygiene, and sunlight exposure only move the margins a bit for those with inflexible night-time chronotypes. Doing everything "right" is not going to make a 5am natural sleeper into a morning person, it's going to make them into a 3am natural sleeper.

most wouldn't fall under "inflexible night-time chronotypes" i don't think

Do you have links to the "actual science" btw, I'm curious to read about this

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by chihuahua »

collegeburner wrote: post #4

i think this is a good thing and not "rigged". here's why: 1. you can train yourself to be a morning person. this is coming from someone who is not at all a morning person by nature. so it's not unfair, what it does do is weed out people who don't bother to do so. it selects for disciplined people with a strong work ethic. 2. it is easier to be a night person than a morning person. inertia says it is easier to stay u…

For many years, I was used to getting up late. Then I found a reason for getting up early: during vacations, I wanted to do 5-6 hour bike rides before the temperature reaches 100F in the afternoon. So I started getting up at 6am during vacations. And since I had gotten used to it, I kept up the same schedule year round.

It's not that rewarding in the winter when it's dark in the morning. But it's still useful for getting work done early before I start getting interrupted by coworkers.

Re: The Workplace Is Rigged to Favor Morning People

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Post by JamesBarney »

collegeburner wrote: post #4

i think this is a good thing and not "rigged". here's why: 1. you can train yourself to be a morning person. this is coming from someone who is not at all a morning person by nature. so it's not unfair, what it does do is weed out people who don't bother to do so. it selects for disciplined people with a strong work ethic. 2. it is easier to be a night person than a morning person. inertia says it is easier to stay u…

God everyone says this. But it's not like i didn't wake up at 7am for 12 years in highschool, and it didn't make me a morning person. Just perpetually sleep deprived.
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