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American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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> Wealthy black people are worse off than poor white people. Citation desperately needed.

Here's a citation showing the opposite.

https://equityhealthj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12...

The difference in health insurance coverage between whites and blacks is 4 percentage points. The difference in health insurance coverage between high and low income households is 10 percentage points.

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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>Surveys show that majorities of African-Americans, Californians, Democrats and Hispanics all oppose the use of race in college admissions (and in other areas). This was surprising to me.

Why? Nobody wants to think their success was the result of an unfair arbitrary advantage.

And this is why the term "white privilege" sells so poorly to whites. And why CRT is attacked so vigorously. Everyone likes to think they made it on their own. The guy who inherited a multi-million dollar business thinks he has had no more real advantage than then guy who was raised in an orphanage in Uganda. While I firmly believe that this privilege exists, you just can't legislate based on it, because you'll get no support.

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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Lol this is why Trump was elected… it’s what makes the “establishment” of both parties oppose him. It’s why we are constantly reminded by the economist that “republicans and trump are racists”.

Steve Bannon actually explains this quite well in a PBS Frontline interview

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pm5xxlajTW0

It’s infuriating to constantly have the Economist pushing the idea “the country is racist” or “so and so is racist” for many years now. Only to point out what most people know - a poor person in west Virginia is likely to be white, and have more in common with a poor black person from DC than a wealthy white person from DC.

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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LMAO at these journalists pretending they're so surprised to find this. As if they had no hand in creating this environment... and as if this wasn't the whole point to begin with. The upper class owns journalism and this state of affairs was very much the goal.

There's a hilarious book by Paul Fussell titled Class: A Guide Through the American Status System He closes by positing that university intellectuals are above the whole mess ...

> He closes by positing that university intellectuals are above the whole mess

That is a very disingenuous if not flat out incorrect summary of what he said.

That may be one group of people who might be outside of “this mess” and in his category X, but I don’t think that university intellectuals are categorically in class X.

For folks who are interested in a more contemporary class summary, I recommend Michael O’Church’s version:

https://indiepf.com/michael-o-churchs-theory-of-3-class-ladd...

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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LMAO at these journalists pretending they're so surprised to find this. As if they had no hand in creating this environment... and as if this wasn't the whole point to begin with. The upper class owns journalism and this state of affairs was very much the goal.

furthermore they focused on race specifically because dividing Americans on class never failed repeatedly.

It's because class in America has always been fluid, with people going from poor to rich or middle class, and from rich to poor, based on their life decisions, and seizing opportunities.

Perhaps the current events have strangled these opportunities for enough people so class can now be used to divide the population against itself?

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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LMAO at these journalists pretending they're so surprised to find this. As if they had no hand in creating this environment... and as if this wasn't the whole point to begin with. The upper class owns journalism and this state of affairs was very much the goal.

Agreed. A better article title would be: "American Media is Focused On Everything But What They Should Be (And Are Paid Well For It)" This is yet another example of how many of the elites live in a bubble. Well educated, yet oh so ignorant.

We love to scapegoat the media.

If you could capture the public's attention and make tons of money focusing on class, someone would do it and dominate discourse. Maybe not existing institutions, but certainly there's nothing preventing someone else from taking to the field. Indeed, there is no shortage of media that do focus on class issues, but they are invariably small & marginalized.

Media will literally eat poop in exchange for attention and the wealth and influence that comes with it. Pretending that the reason they're not talking about class is because of some misguided focus of those in the industry is absurd.

It's just... if you don't pretend, then you have to place the blame elsewhere, and nobody wants to.

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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LMAO at these journalists pretending they're so surprised to find this. As if they had no hand in creating this environment... and as if this wasn't the whole point to begin with. The upper class owns journalism and this state of affairs was very much the goal.

Almost anything a politician does anymore, they can basically always bypass accountability by claiming the impetus is to help advance some racial or other marginalized agenda.

Re: American society is so focused on race that it is blind to class

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lmao @ Economist not crediting the author in the article.

I’m pretty sure The Economist never attributes an author in their articles. The author is supposed to be “The Economist”

Same as Tyler Durdan writing all that stuff for Zerohedge iirc.

It makes somewhat of a sense if you’re trying to disconnect the message from the speaker.

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