I've been able to install Windows 11 on "unsupported" 10-year old laptops with no issues. Use Rufus to download and create a bootable Windows 11 USB stick. It also has the option to bypass the hardware checks.
Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
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Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#42Its the hardware, stupid. I have a far worse running Windows machine and its Windows 11 ready, and my more powerful tower PC cannot run Windows 11, even when I have the TPM module enabled. Microsoft only has itself to blame.
If they widen the hardware support, even if it means software TPM, there will be more Windows 11 users. I'm also half sold on going to Arch Linux as Proton has gotten a lot better. The hardware support is there.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#43I will be avoiding Windows 11 for as long as possible. From my understanding, the issue is that you can only install Windows 11 on computers with a TPM, which they then plan to use to shove DRM down your throat. No thank you. I should not have to "cam" my own computer, because my own computer wont allow me to capture whats visible on the screen. Fuck that.
What happens if you remove/disable the TPM once windows 11 is installed? Will your computer become unusable?
Of course, it's no longer trusted - it can't query the TPM to verify that the firmware image it's trying to load matches the encryption key, so it will not boot. Depending on your settings, you may also be unable to decrypt the hard drive. That's the whole point of the TPM.
Whether you think this is great because it protects you from really scary state-level actors modifying your firmware to log your keystrokes, or from yourself trying to install Ubuntu, depends on your threat assesment. Same with whether full-disk encryption protects you from Mossad determining what OS you're running or whether it prevents you from recovering your files after a software update wrecks the graphics driver.
Fortunately, most new machines ship with UEFI secure boot disabled at this time, but that may change in the future. In theory you can use systemd-cryptenroll to add self-signed keys to the TPM so it boots only your Linux image (or your Linux image and your dual-booting Windows image) in practice it's a massive pain and a big risk of bricking your machine and almost no one bothers.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#44Another way of seeing this is that, for people who think Windows is
the only operating system for PCs, Microsoft just turned 5 out of 6
devices into e-waste.
And I've seen the evidence with my own eyes. Literally skips full of "old" PCs being scrapped at a university because they are not "powerful enough".
That's actually quite disgusting and shameful
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#45I have a desktop with an Intel i7 from around 2014. Its still fast for everything that I do at home. However, I can't update it to windows 11, no TPM. I'm not trashing perfectly good hardware just for that. I'll just keep using Linux.
Same here, I understand that for non-developers ChromeOS Flex is a great (and incredible responsive UX) option [1]. For some developers it could be an option too, last time I tried (the beta) Visual Studio Code didn't installed well and the Linux subsystem stopped working but time will come.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#46It's kinda sad, I remember when every windows release was an event in itself, I would try to get a hold of early releases and marvel at all the changes (except the tiles of windows 8... that was a step too far). But it's not even that I don't like windows 11... I genuinely don't care. Windows 10 works, a _lot_ of my apps are in the browser or in a browser-ish environment anyway (electron). There are no new exciting f…
Windows 11 is just Windows 10 with a different look. As for mobile OS, last time I cared was for Android 4-to-5.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#47Windows 10 annoyed me with its forced restarts. But I liked the idea of never installing another new OS which was the promise.
Suddenly, Windows 11.
I went out and bought a MacBook as an absurdly overpowered thin client and set up the Windows box as a Linux server running my code.
Microsoft’s user experience was so bad it was literally worth it for me to drop $thousands and spend time learning a new OS.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#48Skipping every other Windows release has been the tradition for decades
Install Windows 98 (You installed 95 too, so here is the beginning of the tradition)
Skip Windows Me
Install XP
Skip Vista
Install 7
Skip 8
Microsoft skipped 9
Install 10
Skip 11
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#49I will be avoiding Windows 11 for as long as possible. From my understanding, the issue is that you can only install Windows 11 on computers with a TPM, which they then plan to use to shove DRM down your throat. No thank you. I should not have to "cam" my own computer, because my own computer wont allow me to capture whats visible on the screen. Fuck that.
What happens if you remove/disable the TPM once windows 11 is installed? Will your computer become unusable?
No, if you don't have drive encryption enabled.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#50There must be a word for people who complain relentlessly about a brand or company but keep going back to it anyway.
"Consumers". This is the difference between "consumer" and "customer". A customer has control over their money. They make choices that benefit themselves and producers must compete with one another for their money. A consumer is just somebody whose job is to not only eat the shit shoveled at them, but work their ass off and live in debt for the joy of eating it. But, don't worry, the government will step in and give…
Your absurd quote usage does not give words a new meaning, you know?