There must be a word for people who complain relentlessly about a brand or company but keep going back to it anyway.
Like the HN commenters?
Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
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Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#32Windows 11 is kind of like Metaverse. Nobody wants this except Microsoft deluded executives. Why couldn't they keep improving the Windows 10 and listen to what people actually want?
What's wrong with Windows 11?
Right click on taskbar + Task Manager ... Gone.
Move taskbar vertically to left or right ... Gone.
Desktop right click menu extra clicks ... No thanks.
Edge shoved down my throat ... No thanks.
TPM, Secure Boot ... No thanks.
Need Microsoft account ... No thanks.
Xbox Game bar and other bloatware ... No thanks.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#33I have a desktop with an Intel i7 from around 2014. Its still fast for everything that I do at home. However, I can't update it to windows 11, no TPM. I'm not trashing perfectly good hardware just for that. I'll just keep using Linux.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#34I'm still using Win7 Pro for most things. The pc is a dual-boot with Win10 Pro the other OS. I use Win10 Pro when I do GIS or geophysical stuff that is only licensed for that OS. I have a lot of legacy software that runs on Win10 or better but was purchased before those were options. I prefer the interface over any of that 10 or 11 bullshit.
My main workstation is a 2008 Dell T5400 that is trying to die. The mobo has a couple dead RAM slots and a dead PCIe slot. Whenever it powers down it is difficult to get it to reboot since it fails in POST due to some issue that is always resolved by removing the cover and blowing all the dust out of the case, even if there is only a small amount. I think the thing just appreciates an occasional blow job. LOL
I do have another machine waiting to take over that has Win10 Pro and PopOs on it and if I have to I can fall back to my other workstation, a Dell T7500 with CentOS7 and Ubuntu xxx on it. It's a power hog though with those Xeons so I leave it off most of the time.
I have so far managed to avoid upgrading any of my family's devices to Win11. They all run Win10 Pro right now AFAIK. I don't like Win10 but, like my old Windows phone which I just replaced a couple months ago (iPhone 12), I will probably migrate to that over the next couple of years.
I'll watch posts here on HN to keep me informed about all the suck.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#35It is unacceptable but I wonder if Microsoft now should prioritize a future new OS cutting the monstruous legacy aspects of Windows.
Since few devices will run Windows 11 and big organizations will be forced to spend more in their "modernization" projects it can be time to cut the umbilical cord to the past (e.g. Win32).
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#36So what?
Stick with Windows 10. It is still supported until October 2025
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#37Last I checked, I still couldn't drag an object onto the task bar to move it or open it in my selected program, so it's still a downgrade for me.
Can you don that on MacOS? Because the "new Windows" is now designed by Mac users[1] internally in Microsoft and they are seemingly trying to make everything Mac-y.
[1] I'd love to find a reference for that, but I've searched for 15 minutes straight now, and I just can't find the link. Someone help me, please?
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#38There must be a word for people who complain relentlessly about a brand or company but keep going back to it anyway.
Abused.
Morbid codependency is a common enough pattern in domestic situations. What happens in tech sometimes looks a lot like that.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#39This isn't surprising. The launch-time requirement of a TPM imposes an artificial bar (artificial in the sense that it's purely Microsoft-imposed -- it's usefulness is certainly more debatable to the average user) which instantly locked out people who either: - Didn't know what that was and didn't care to learn (probably most people); or - Understood what it was but either didn't have a CPU with a built-in TPM, which…
> Understood what it was but either didn't have a CPU with a built-in TPM, which is a fairly recent feature, or didn't have a motherboard with a TPM socket.
I'm definitely in the latter. I was running an insider's build of Win11 on my home desktop for quite a while just fine, until they seemed to have actually made the TPM a hard requirement, and I rolled back to Win10. It's a shame because it's an 8 year old beefy PC that otherwise runs perfectly fine and I didn't have any issues with Win11 otherwise on it.
Re: Windows 11 runs on fewer than 1 in 6 PCs
#40It is unacceptable but I wonder if Microsoft now should prioritize a future new OS cutting the monstruous legacy aspects of Windows. Since few devices will run Windows 11 and big organizations will be forced to spend more in their "modernization" projects it can be time to cut the umbilical cord to the past (e.g. Win32).
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