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Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

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Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

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This is brilliant - but not because I hate Apple or have anything against someone choosing to use Apple, even tho I don't myself. But hopefully a ban on such a popular product (right before Christmas to) will bring software patents and all the issues around them fully into the public attention and debate. In the past it's been really hard to explain to non-geeks why they should care about such issues ... Or am I bein…

You're right. Angry consumers, rioting for iPads would tip it.

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

#32

This is brilliant - but not because I hate Apple or have anything against someone choosing to use Apple, even tho I don't myself. But hopefully a ban on such a popular product (right before Christmas to) will bring software patents and all the issues around them fully into the public attention and debate. In the past it's been really hard to explain to non-geeks why they should care about such issues ... Or am I bein…

I downvoted you. Here's why: It's hard to take anyone seriously when they misspell "though" "tho". You may have made a good point, but I didn't read past your first sentence. I'm not trying to be a dick about it-- and I hate to clog up the comments section with a garbage comment like this one-- but you would really be doing yourself a favor to use somewhat correct spelling and grammar. It really sucks when people ign…

"Tho" is a correct variation in American English. It's like down-voting someone for "misspelling" colour or metre.

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an amusing taxonomy, but don't fool yourself into thinking this stuff can be so precisely and unambiguously delineated. There's a continuum between a province with some autonomy to fully-fledged independent nation state, and the application of various English words to refer to particular entities that lie in different places on the continuum is governed primarily by history and culture, not by legal and politi…

Not to mention the fact that, as far as I am aware, the term used for the constituents parts of the UK is "country": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_United_Kingdom I don't think many people answer "British" to the question "What country are you from?".

Not many people would answer "British" to the question "What country are you from?", because "British" is not a place, but a nationality. ;)

If you asked me what I am, I might respond "British" - whereas if you asked where I'm from, I might respond "Britain".

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

#35

This is brilliant - but not because I hate Apple or have anything against someone choosing to use Apple, even tho I don't myself. But hopefully a ban on such a popular product (right before Christmas to) will bring software patents and all the issues around them fully into the public attention and debate. In the past it's been really hard to explain to non-geeks why they should care about such issues ... Or am I bein…

I downvoted you. Here's why: It's hard to take anyone seriously when they misspell "though" "tho". You may have made a good point, but I didn't read past your first sentence. I'm not trying to be a dick about it-- and I hate to clog up the comments section with a garbage comment like this one-- but you would really be doing yourself a favor to use somewhat correct spelling and grammar. It really sucks when people ign…

Get over yourself

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

#36

This is brilliant - but not because I hate Apple or have anything against someone choosing to use Apple, even tho I don't myself. But hopefully a ban on such a popular product (right before Christmas to) will bring software patents and all the issues around them fully into the public attention and debate. In the past it's been really hard to explain to non-geeks why they should care about such issues ... Or am I bein…

I think you are being optimistic. The question is (tho), how will Apple counter this one. If they pull something similar on Motorola, then that's a settlement. If they can't pull anything, they have to buy themselves out - which would be great, because the only way to beat the patent system is its main players realizing, that the game became way too costly, and instead of patent troll firms they start paying lobbyist firms (may even be the same ones huh?) to get legislators to make radical changes on the patent system.

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

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How can Germany ban something Europe wide, since patents count per country? I don't get it, at the price they sell these Apple products why would they not buy the right licenses? I only have questions, no answers. Sorry for that.

Because Motorola isn't selling them a license. Ah, so why isn't Motorola selling them a license then? Because Apple is unique among the big mobile phone players in that they have no interest in licensing their own patents to others for money or for access to the other party's patents. Instead Apple are using them just for the purpose of getting the others off the market.

Nokia apparently managed to bludgeon a cross-licensing agreement from Apple. Motorola is presumably attempting the same.

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

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post #36

This is brilliant - but not because I hate Apple or have anything against someone choosing to use Apple, even tho I don't myself. But hopefully a ban on such a popular product (right before Christmas to) will bring software patents and all the issues around them fully into the public attention and debate. In the past it's been really hard to explain to non-geeks why they should care about such issues ... Or am I bein…

I think you are being optimistic. The question is (tho), how will Apple counter this one. If they pull something similar on Motorola, then that's a settlement. If they can't pull anything, they have to buy themselves out - which would be great, because the only way to beat the patent system is its main players realizing, that the game became way too costly, and instead of patent troll firms they start paying lobbyist…

Motorola is being bought by Google. And while they aren't involved in this lawsuit, they are probably present as advisers, so a settlement will probably have to apply to all Android phone makers, as it's in Google's interest to do so.

Considering how fierce Apple is fighting Android companies, I don't think they'll settle. I'm seeing this fight going nuclear.

Re: Motorola secures Europe-wide sales ban on iPhone, iPad

#40

This is brilliant - but not because I hate Apple or have anything against someone choosing to use Apple, even tho I don't myself. But hopefully a ban on such a popular product (right before Christmas to) will bring software patents and all the issues around them fully into the public attention and debate. In the past it's been really hard to explain to non-geeks why they should care about such issues ... Or am I bein…

This farce has surely got out of control and just makes the manufacturers look extremely foolish. All of this is powered by greed.

Lets hope as you say that it pushes this debate out to the general public, although I doubt that it will happen.

Makes me want to not buy any of Nokia, Samsung or Apple's products.

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