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Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by Markoff »

Vibgyor5 wrote: post #75
gary_0 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung Galaxy S10e (with recent software). It wasn't cheap. And all my previous Android phones were fine too, but this one only has the little hole in the screen for the camera. There is no sensor.

Not sure if the device really is the issue here. I've the same phone, it costed me $600 when I bought it 3.5 years back. And till date, it's the best phone I've owned: not too big, headphone jack, expendable storage, physical dual sim, capable cameras and Touch ID that's located just right. Importantly, I've never had issues that you mentioned (dropped calls or Bluetooth glitches for that matter) I use this phone (S1…

You may be using different software version, maybe they fixed it. It was very popular model, I really doubt if it had such serious issues it would not be fixed.

I found guy reporting it as software issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/bzv9oq/proximity...

though other says it's faulty design https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/d94ob7/proximity...

Samsung recommended to return the phone, some people had luck with changing Touch sensitivity settings and Accidental touch protection https://piunikaweb.com/2019/03/18/samsung-galaxy-s10-proximi...

possible to test it here to see whether it's hardware or software issue https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/the-proximity-sensor-is-n...

But considering not all people have this problem it's either software error, software setting or some batches had hardware issue or they fixed the design.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by Markoff »

gary_0 wrote: post #79
Firmwarrior wrote: post #72

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Return the phone, it's broken There's no way Samsung made a phone with no proximity sensor .. well, then again, they did make the Note 7.. https://youtu.be/0IVk8PsSgEI

I know it's not using a proximity sensor because the front camera turns on when it's trying to fake-proximity-sense. I also know what a proximity sensor looks like (I've worked with such sensors for my job), and there isn't one. It's just a bad design; form overrode function.

S10 series should have under screen proximity sensor, so there is no way for you to see it unless it lights up during function, it's white flashing LED

https://nasilemaktech.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-series-proximit...

are you using samsung phone app or 3rd party app? see my other comment with links how to resolve it

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by notacoward »

bearmode wrote: post #133
gary_0 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung Galaxy S10e (with recent software). It wasn't cheap. And all my previous Android phones were fine too, but this one only has the little hole in the screen for the camera. There is no sensor.

I have an S10, literally never had an issue with this

I have an S10, literally did. So which anecdote wins?

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by Markoff »

notacoward wrote: post #143
bearmode wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an S10, literally never had an issue with this

I have an S10, literally did. So which anecdote wins?

The point is parent's generalization is wrong because it's either caused by faulty hardware or software issue, but it's not widespread problem across all new (Android) smartphones, just because you and him experience this issue.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by Eleison23 »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #44
logicalmonster wrote: post #2

I cannot read the article due to the paywall, but just to vent.....one painful phone pet peeve for me that's declined recently is the art of people leaving a useful voice mail. Ok, I get it. There's a few technically-challenged people that struggle with emails and texts and prefer to use their voice. I'm perfectly happy to deal with that. But they call and leave a voice mail that focuses on the wrong information. The…

> and phone number (even though any digital system provides that already Speaking of which, when I call any customer service, they ALWAYS ask for my phone number. I've been baffled by this for awhile. Why? Can't they see it?

That is one of their verification points for your account. They want to know whether you know the phone number on file with them.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by deepdmistry »

bearmode wrote: post #132
jiggawatts wrote: post #107

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Or just use an iPhone. This is the problem with Stockholm Syndrome. You think you're on the right side the entire time.

No thanks, I'd rather shoot myself in the eye than have to use Safari.

You can use any browser on iPhone.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by papascrubs »

codalan wrote: post #40

The stock Android dialer is a complete UX hellscape. Every other time I need to dial a number, I will be randomly interrupted by some dialogue to enable a feature or to learn about X, when I'm urgently trying to make a call. It's so f-ing rude and intrusive. And it's designed to trick you into enabling shit without giving you time to think it over. It's such a scummy thing to do, but hey, it's Google. Imagine having…

To be fair, a good chunk of Android in total is a UX hellscape. This coming from a lifelong Android user. One of Android's greatest strengths (customization) is also it's greatest weakness.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by zdragnar »

deepdmistry wrote: post #146
bearmode wrote: post #132

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No thanks, I'd rather shoot myself in the eye than have to use Safari.

You can use any browser on iPhone.

You can use any browser skin on an iphone. They're all the same web view.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by MichaelZuo »

midoridensha wrote: post #116
2000UltraDeluxe wrote: post #49

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> It’s crazy that anyone can force a full-screen interrupt on my personal device with no context. It's a _phone_. Phone calls are it's primary function. If you don't want that, wouldn't a pad be a better option than a phone? Besides, how would you handle calls from landlines and such?

>It's a _phone_. Phone calls are it's primary function. No, it's not. You sound like a dinosaur. A phone's primary functions are 1) text-messaging apps, 2) camera, 3) dating apps, 4) banking apps, and various others. Phone calls are somewhere around #20.

Not according to the mobile OS engineering teams at Apple or Google. Phone calls are intentionally given priority over other functions.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Post by ahoy »

calvano915 wrote: post #135
lozenge wrote: post #118

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Samsung phones were actually highly ad laden until they realised it was hurting their brand about a year or two before you bought yours. I'm expecting ads to slowly slip back in.

Huh? I've had numerous Galaxy phones since S8 and there's no issues with ads throughout the OS.

Same. I've had an s8 and and s20, neither have this ads issue described.
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