That's 0.003% of Twitter's "monetizable" daily active users.
Also, how many did Twitter gain or lose? It's possible for both Mastodon and Twitter to have increased during the same time period.
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> People used to think the network effect for MySpace and Friendster were insurmountable. That was also long time ago and it was much easier to compete back then. I think now only way for that to happen is if big network fucks up, not if the better competition comes up
Ok, what about Google+?
The problem with G+ was Google being Google. Launching new products is rewarded; iterating on them long enough to gain popularity is not.
Re: Mastodon gained 70k users after Musk’s Twitter takeover
#14370k users doesn't seem like that many...and I am not sure I'd call them "users" yet, technically I'm a "user" but I checked it out for a few months here and there and don't plan on ever going back. The entire experience felt really clunky to me and moving the pin seems like a tough pull that would take quite awhile. but you know just my opinion!
A small fraction of Twitter's users create most of the value of the Twitter network. Given that, I think the interesting question is what segment do those 70k fall into?
Considering you can have a not repost everything you tweet on Mastodon, it doesn't seem like all that much commitment to be in both places.
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#144Considering Elon Musk is likely to revert the ridiculous censorship that went on at Twitter, rhe people leaving twitter are the ones who want censors. Kind of ridiculous for them to go to Mastodon where decentralisation makes banning harder. They will be exposed to - the horror! - other people's ideas!
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You should think of it more as multiple places joined together rather than as one place spread out. It's more like the old BBS networks of old, like FidoNET, etc. And it has a similar vibe to that. I like it for this reason. If you go in expecting Twitter, you will be disappointed. That's not what it is.
FidoNET (got I loved FidoNET) had a central coordinating authority, you had to get on a nodelist. With Mastodon it gets incrementally harder to just add someone. Are they on the same Mastodon instance as me? Does my Mastodon instance federate the Mastodon instance they're on? Is this handled client side with multiple identities? Now how do I handle these multiple identities, so I broadcast "toots" (cringe) to all of…
I'm also confused about your description. I host my own single user mastodon instance and have no problems to follow anyone, just put their username into the searchbar and click follow.
This way I can follow anything on the fediverse, not only Mastodon accounts but PeerTube, Friendica, PixelFed, FunkWhale, etc. all from my Mastodon account.
Re: Mastodon gained 70k users after Musk’s Twitter takeover
#146People used to think the network effect for MySpace and Friendster were insurmountable. I played around with Mastodon last night and I think it has some bad but not insurmountable ergonomic wrinkles, but I worry its decentralization will prevent it from ever becoming mainstream. Centralization makes it easier to deal with "bad" actors. Also Discovery is a huge problem: how do I discover people I know? How do content…
Twitter didn't really have much of a discovery mechanism in its early years, and that's when it really built the userbase that is its main competitive advantage right now. I'm not sure that's a huge impediment, particularly since Twitter could be the de facto discovery mechanism for people on their way out the door ("Hey, I'm leaving for Mastodon, where I'll be foo@bar.org").
I do think there's an unmet demand for aggregator accounts on Mastodon right now, though. Like if I'm interested in esports (just f.ex.), there should probably be someone I could follow who boosts significant content related to that subject to aid people in finding new people to follow. (To be honest that probably already exists; like early Twitter, Mastodon is pretty tech heavy. There are a lot of gaps though.)
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> People used to think the network effect for MySpace and Friendster were insurmountable. That was also long time ago and it was much easier to compete back then. I think now only way for that to happen is if big network fucks up, not if the better competition comes up
Ok, what about Google+?
Ultimately Google+ was Facebook but slightly different. There wasn't really a compelling reason to switch.
But while Facebook has been around we've seen Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Twitter, Vine, WhatsApp, Reddit, Discord, and a handful of other smaller or regional sites rise. There's very little lock in. You've just got to do something other than "Facebook but different".
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"Bad" actors don't need to be dealt with, just block them. Content creators get discovered just like on Twitter, a link.
Block each of a million individual spam bots manually. I'll wait. The obvious retort is "I just block everything by default." You have now closed yourself off and the spambots have won.
Server admins block other servers that do not effectively prevent the creation of spam accounts. Could this become a problem if the network grows fast enough to be a profitable target for spammers? Probably. Is it a problem now? Not that I've seen.
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Nope, it sounds like you want Mastodon to be twitter. Or think that it should be trying to be? They have a blog & followers and some nomenclature in common. But they're really not that similar at all. If they weren't using @ notation and "followers" etc people would complain it's too different. But because they're using those things, people also complain that it's not similar enough. Tough situation. It's just best t…
Have you looked at Mastodon? Have you not noticed they're called "Toots?"
Personally I hate the "toot" nomenclature. That's something you teach a toddler to say instead of "fart".
"Posts" forever and always.
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> I would also expect a decentralized network to easily support multiple identities. At least the default client seemingly does not. The official iOS client certainly does. Long press on the profile icon at the bottom right to switch/add.
oh well. speak about discoverability. many thanks for this hint.
Yeah there are some UX optimizations that could probably be made...
OTOH, I can't think of many big-name mobile apps that don't have some issues with less-than-obvious long-press functionality. (Snapchat seems to literally do this shit on purpose, because it's "fun" apparently.)
IMO that's a general problem with mobile UX... long-press actions have zero affordance. There's no way to tell short of randomly long-pressing on stuff what's going to have an action associated with it.