I got a mastodon account on the mastodon.social instance years ago and took another look recently.
I still can't figure it out. I see people say they're moving to mastodon, try to search for them on the platform, and find nothing. Possibly they're on another instance that's not searchable from mastodon.social, or their name is different, or the search is bad...
The most important quality I hear people are looking for in a replacement for Twitter is "Everyone else is on it" so they're all stuck in a catch 22. I don't think this energy to get off Twitter is going to go anywhere.
This is true until it isn't. I expect that if Twitter dies, it won't be a mass exodus, but a thousand cuts. It's not dying tomorrow, but in my opinion its days are numbered.
And I don't mean just because Musk took over, although he's made some decisions already that make no sense to me. It's got issues. People WANT an alternative.
That's 0.003% of Twitter's "monetizable" daily active users.
yeah.. sounds like a storm in a teacup unfortunately and is probably unlikely to have any effect on anything (incl. the adoption speed of Mastodon)... heck that number is probably 0.003% of the BOTS on Twitter ;)
It's impressive how quickly those bot accounts can jump ship. Now Mastodon use them to juice their growth figures. p.s. They gained accounts. That's not the same as actual users using the platform.
Mastodon is a not for profit project ran by many community members in a federated fashion. What do they have to gain by „juicing“ their growth figures?
I don't follow your logic. That makes them holy? Ego-less? Better than the rest of us?
Evidently, they gain media favor. They were the source of those figures, yes? So why even say anything?
Not-for-profit !== higher calling. It simply means a different set of financial and ta rules. Nothing more. Nothing less.
People used to think the network effect for MySpace and Friendster were insurmountable. I played around with Mastodon last night and I think it has some bad but not insurmountable ergonomic wrinkles, but I worry its decentralization will prevent it from ever becoming mainstream. Centralization makes it easier to deal with "bad" actors. Also Discovery is a huge problem: how do I discover people I know? How do content…
I don't think these are just ergonomic wrinkles. I was surprised to learn that it seems to matter which instance you join. I assumed "decentralized" means "it doesn't matter where you're located". To me this is rather a basic, philosophical flaw.
I would also expect a decentralized network to easily support multiple identities. At least the default client seemingly does not. Twitter on the other hand allows switching between profiles.
I think these two issues are connected. It seems to me the mastodon community (or parts of it) leans towards a rather weird understanding of identity and community.
Pretty sure more than that re/joined since twitter's acquisition was confirmed. If you count the numbers since this whole ordeal began months ago, I'd say it's a pretty low chance Twitter is gonna "die" or get "tumblr"'d. They began stagnating years ago but this is at least gonna drag it for years to come. If Musk plays it right it might even grow (assuming meta's endeavors stay the same).
Ha! I was one of them. I never even used Twitter, but a nerd friend of mine told me about the Fediverse told me about it and I actually got quite excited.
Find the right server and it seems like a great place to be!
People used to think the network effect for MySpace and Friendster were insurmountable. I played around with Mastodon last night and I think it has some bad but not insurmountable ergonomic wrinkles, but I worry its decentralization will prevent it from ever becoming mainstream. Centralization makes it easier to deal with "bad" actors. Also Discovery is a huge problem: how do I discover people I know? How do content…
Centralization makes it harder to deal with bad actors, because the cost of moderating a huge platform is massive, and the centralized social media platforms we have today have been unable or unwilling to do it. Federal platforms like Reddit and Discord are able to moderate effectively, on the other hand, because the cost of moderation is devolved to the municipal governments: subreddits and servers. Moderation at th…
That makes Mastodon more of an attractive alternative to Discord rather than a replacement of the "digital commons" aspect of Twitter. But as some people have stated, maybe Mastodon doesn't want to _be_ that, but some people hope that there can be something that can assume that mantle.
The most important quality I hear people are looking for in a replacement for Twitter is "Everyone else is on it" so they're all stuck in a catch 22. I don't think this energy to get off Twitter is going to go anywhere.
I think it's a mistake to think that Mastodon would necessarily be the beneficiary of any Twitter exodus. I think it's more likely that the beneficiaries would be established, centralized services like Discord or Reddit. The underlying media models may be different, but I suspect people care less about the model than about seeing things they're interested in, and plenty of these people will already have accounts on these other major services. (Some people use Twitter less for "participating in a specific niche community" and more for "building a personal brand", but there are other centralized services that provide that as well, like Instagram).