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The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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post #78

My golden rules to make videoconferencing more reliable : - Use ethernet. Wi-Fi isn't reliable, your neighbor's microwave can ruin everything. - Use wired headphones. 0 latency. 0 connection time. And disables the mic noise-cancelling algos. - Use classic phone calls when required. It's more robust and latency is even better.

> Wi-Fi isn't reliable, your neighbor's microwave can ruin everything. Agree that wifi isn't reliable, but not for that reason: microwave ovens haven't been an issue for wifi since most people switched to the 5GHz band, many years ago.

Yes there's plenty of reasons, channel saturation, low quality routers, various interferences. My Ethernet cable is easier to debug.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#112
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AirPods aren’t that seamless for me. The switching between phone and MacBook is pretty good, but there is still an element of randomness if the phone will connect to the AirPods or not. Add in a few more switches such as in the car or a Bluetooth speaker and the article rings true for me.

My right AirPod bud regularly (as in 2 out of 3) needs to be put back into the case and taken out again, in order to connect. The left one just works. I won't buy them again.

I used to have such problems with older Airpods. Since I got the 2nd gen Airpods Pro pretty muvh every issue is gone, they work perfectly every time.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#113
post #40

The stock Android dialer is a complete UX hellscape. Every other time I need to dial a number, I will be randomly interrupted by some dialogue to enable a feature or to learn about X, when I'm urgently trying to make a call. It's so f-ing rude and intrusive. And it's designed to trick you into enabling shit without giving you time to think it over. It's such a scummy thing to do, but hey, it's Google. Imagine having…

Are you sure that's Google and not your device manufacturer or your carrier? The dialer on my Android phone seems OK. I'm not going to claim it's the best UX ever, but it certainly doesn't interrupt me with dialogs about anything. Android phones are infamous for having carrier-required crap pre-loaded.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#114
post #71

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I used to have a phone with DND but if the same caller tried twice in a couple of minutes then it would ring.

Is this through Tasker or something? I would love to have this feature.

default iphone feature

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

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> It’s crazy that anyone can force a full-screen interrupt on my personal device with no context. It's a _phone_. Phone calls are it's primary function. If you don't want that, wouldn't a pad be a better option than a phone? Besides, how would you handle calls from landlines and such?

Is there a 5-6 inch pad available? If not, then that's not an alternative, can't shove a 10 inch tablet into my pocket. And while it's called a phone, the primary function for many (dare I say most?) is definitely not doing voice calls, hell my phone app icon isn't even on the homescreen anymore, that's how little I use this device for phone calls and I use it for hours every day otherwise.

Samsung Note series of phones. I've been using them since the Note 3 and could not imagine using any other device without a stylus.

Yes, it's primarily a phone by market segmentation. But it's a small tablet by features.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#116
post #22

Phone calls should have a subject line, just like emails. It’s crazy that anyone can force a full-screen interrupt on my personal device with no context. If call metadata included a subject line, software could automatically screen out calls where the subject is empty or spammy, just like with email. It would be very helpful for missed calls. “Why did my wife call twice in the last 5 minutes, did something happen, sh…

> It’s crazy that anyone can force a full-screen interrupt on my personal device with no context. It's a _phone_. Phone calls are it's primary function. If you don't want that, wouldn't a pad be a better option than a phone? Besides, how would you handle calls from landlines and such?

>It's a _phone_. Phone calls are it's primary function.

No, it's not. You sound like a dinosaur. A phone's primary functions are 1) text-messaging apps, 2) camera, 3) dating apps, 4) banking apps, and various others. Phone calls are somewhere around #20.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#117
post #22

Phone calls should have a subject line, just like emails. It’s crazy that anyone can force a full-screen interrupt on my personal device with no context. If call metadata included a subject line, software could automatically screen out calls where the subject is empty or spammy, just like with email. It would be very helpful for missed calls. “Why did my wife call twice in the last 5 minutes, did something happen, sh…

“Receiver anxiety” should crawl off into the forest. It’s a youth-millennial thing that inhibits waaaay too much authentic social action. People are just too scared to be human. Just call me! I might pick up I might not. For that matter, if I don’t respond to your email in a day, treat it like a phone call and just try again. Don’t assume I’m ignoring you. It’s just e-mail.

My mother had no issues calling someone but her parents were upset when she started listening to that damn rock and roll. The youth thing inhibits way too much authentic music. People are just scared to listen to the oldies. /s

Différent generations have different norms and it’s not right or wrong.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#118
post #40

The stock Android dialer is a complete UX hellscape. Every other time I need to dial a number, I will be randomly interrupted by some dialogue to enable a feature or to learn about X, when I'm urgently trying to make a call. It's so f-ing rude and intrusive. And it's designed to trick you into enabling shit without giving you time to think it over. It's such a scummy thing to do, but hey, it's Google. Imagine having…

I have strong suspicion you are not talking about Google's android dialer but some chinese ad-infested knock-off. When I used to have crappy Xiaomi, I had ads everywhere - settings, basic 'android' apps, most probably dialer too, definitely SMS sending app and so on. Threw it away and never looked back. There are premium androids who give users completely different experience, be it Samsung, Sony, Google etc etc etc.…

Samsung phones were actually highly ad laden until they realised it was hurting their brand about a year or two before you bought yours. I'm expecting ads to slowly slip back in.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#119
post #78

My golden rules to make videoconferencing more reliable : - Use ethernet. Wi-Fi isn't reliable, your neighbor's microwave can ruin everything. - Use wired headphones. 0 latency. 0 connection time. And disables the mic noise-cancelling algos. - Use classic phone calls when required. It's more robust and latency is even better.

> Wi-Fi isn't reliable, your neighbor's microwave can ruin everything. Agree that wifi isn't reliable, but not for that reason: microwave ovens haven't been an issue for wifi since most people switched to the 5GHz band, many years ago.

2.4Ghz is still very much in use in many places. I have recent stories from friends whose apartment microwave will cause internet issues.

Re: The first minute of every phone call is torture now

#120
post #78

My golden rules to make videoconferencing more reliable : - Use ethernet. Wi-Fi isn't reliable, your neighbor's microwave can ruin everything. - Use wired headphones. 0 latency. 0 connection time. And disables the mic noise-cancelling algos. - Use classic phone calls when required. It's more robust and latency is even better.

> Wi-Fi isn't reliable, your neighbor's microwave can ruin everything. Agree that wifi isn't reliable, but not for that reason: microwave ovens haven't been an issue for wifi since most people switched to the 5GHz band, many years ago.

2.4Ghz is still very much in use in many places. I will use it even though I have dual band a lot due to range/penetration limitations.

I have recent stories from friends whose apartment microwave will cause internet issues.

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