Every time I see events like this happen, I get extremely skeptical of the idea that China will somehow replace the US as leader of the world. I’m not sure if I’m justified in thinking so, but I just cannot imagine actions like this leading to a creative, innovative culture.
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Totalitarianism. Just that. You do not know what uou are risking if you protest. It may be worse that death or jail… Your family… Edit: the ellipses are because there are other possible outcomes, just that. I am not blaming the Chinese people. I am blaming the present (well, last 70 years at least) mode of government. Read Soljenitsin or Ginzburg or Nadiezda Mandelstam and you wil see what totalitarian Communism is c…
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China's vaccine doesn't work. That's why they continue to lockdown. It's really not more complicated than that.
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What, like some kind of engineered biotech effect that will allow one nation to finally take over the world?
It's a spooky enough scenario to be sexy to think about, but not even I'm tinfoil hat enough to think that's a practical move for us right now.
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I feel like we know about all-cause mortality and CE/MFS relabeled long COVID rising in anyone who had COVID, but just choose not to care.
Since there are some promising developments in treating CE/MFS now, I'll continue trying to not get infected, though it is getting less easy with seemingly nobody left to give a shit.
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#45Also, Apple: Chinese workers flee Covid lockdown at iPhone factory https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-63447755 . Elsewhere in India, Apple is up its game. India's Tata to add Up to 45,000 woman workers at iPhone parts plant to deal with the shortage of parts created by zero lockdown policy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/india-s-t... . More and more stuff is moving to other parts of Asia. So…
> washing hands
I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I guessing the same with Covid hygiene measures.
> get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter.
Like the majority of the people not taking the vaccine are on Twitter or do so because of social media drama.
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> Do they know something we don't?
What China knows is that their vaccines are worse than the western ones, too many old people didn't get vaccinated at all and they don't have the hospital capacity to just ride out the infections waves without many deaths.
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I suggest you read Amnesty’s report on the human rights situation in China and reevaluate your position: https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/eas...
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The cultural differences wouldn't display by leaving of your friend :) there's so much more than "obedience". They do not riot, because they, too, understand, that the capacity of hospitals is quite low comparable to the density of people. The other points: You can't just leave the country without being a foreigner. Chinese people need a Visa for the countries they want to enter. The social score / if you participate…
I appreciate the perspective. Maybe it's just something about being an American, but even while I was in the Army I had a "fuck you" attitude about most everything that the brass (i.e. the leadership, if "brass" doesn't translate) made us do. Now that I'm a "civilian" again I still retain this attitude. A lot of important business leaders do too. I'm not really sure if this is a feature of American culture or not, bu…
I share that "fuck authority" idea with you, but I think it's important to remember that the context you grow up is very important in setting cultural norms. In many ways, even the things it's possible for someone to believe are based on socioeconomic circumstances.
If you're blasted with propaganda constantly, if the means and mode of productions are set up in a certain way which encourages certain behaviour, it becomes very difficult for people to even realise there are other possibilities.
This is a feature of every society, including in the West. We have a strong individualist "fuck you, I've got mine" tendency, but just like China and Russia, there is a large portion of the population that also lauds the people who exploit us because they are seen as something to aspire to.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather live in the West, but personally I see many similarities when you look at the life of an average person.