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I was considering this same point myself this past weekend. Very odd, but I suspect we'll never know unless there's some obviously catastrophic event in the future.
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#33COVID has taught me a lot about the cultural differences between the west and China. A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China. I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot.
The cultural differences wouldn't display by leaving of your friend :) there's so much more than "obedience". They do not riot, because they, too, understand, that the capacity of hospitals is quite low comparable to the density of people. The other points: You can't just leave the country without being a foreigner. Chinese people need a Visa for the countries they want to enter. The social score / if you participate…
I appreciate the perspective.
Maybe it's just something about being an American, but even while I was in the Army I had a "fuck you" attitude about most everything that the brass (i.e. the leadership, if "brass" doesn't translate) made us do. Now that I'm a "civilian" again I still retain this attitude. A lot of important business leaders do too. I'm not really sure if this is a feature of American culture or not, but it's certainly a truism that has existed for a loooooong time.
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#34COVID has taught me a lot about the cultural differences between the west and China. A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China. I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot.
Totalitarianism. Just that. You do not know what uou are risking if you protest. It may be worse that death or jail… Your family… Edit: the ellipses are because there are other possible outcomes, just that. I am not blaming the Chinese people. I am blaming the present (well, last 70 years at least) mode of government. Read Soljenitsin or Ginzburg or Nadiezda Mandelstam and you wil see what totalitarian Communism is c…
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#38COVID has taught me a lot about the cultural differences between the west and China. A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China. I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot.
Americans riot because their protected right to riot is so inculcated in them since birth that they do not really even think that it's a matter of perspective.
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#39I'm honestly really, really confused about what the CCP wants or thinks the end game of this policy will be.
It's patently obviously with Covid quickly becoming or already endemic in the rest of the world that these outbreaks will continue, and likely grow, in China. So are they using this policy just as a tool to show the control they have? At some point of there is enough damage to the economy and damage to individuals that it only increases the likelihood of large scale social unrest.
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#40COVID has taught me a lot about the cultural differences between the west and China. A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China. I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot.
In a culture that values doing what's best for the people as a whole, I can imagine people seeing it as a duty rather than in infringment of their individual rights. I can also see those people struggling to understand the American style of fierce individualism that creates so much pain and interpersonal conflict for seemingly little gain.
Individualism versus collective good seems to be mostly a false dichotomy.
I can also see those people struggling to understand the American style of fierce individualism that creates so much pain and interpersonal conflict for seemingly little gain.
Fierce individualism in some aspect, maybe. But don't forget that the state is extremely powerful in enforcing and reinforcing certain patterns of living.