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As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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I am somewhat curious what the (MRE-like???) pre packaged/factory-sealed Chinese astronaut food looks like, in its containers and when prepared for eating. And what the variety of the menu is.

https://www.space.com/china-astronauts-space-food-menu-shenz...

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Some of the features I know from the Chinese space station - Solar panels smaller in area than ISS but produces similar amount of power, indicating much more efficient solar panels - Ion thrusters to keep space in orbit - Automated docking of cargo and crew capsule. Semi-automated docking of large station components like the 23ton labs - A robotic arm similar to ISS that walk along the joint points on the station. It…

> Solar panels smaller in area than ISS but produces similar amount of power, indicating much more efficient solar panels I should hope so after over a decade. AFAIK they haven't changed the solar panels since the last one was installed in 2009 and the design was probably fixed well before the first one was installed. > A robotic arm similar to ISS that walk along the joint points on the station. It has expandable at…

I think you missed the recent delivery of new roll-up solar panels to the ISS.

Also I don't think the CanadaArm can roam to the Russian segment, but there's a new European arm that does.

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Some of the features I know from the Chinese space station - Solar panels smaller in area than ISS but produces similar amount of power, indicating much more efficient solar panels - Ion thrusters to keep space in orbit - Automated docking of cargo and crew capsule. Semi-automated docking of large station components like the 23ton labs - A robotic arm similar to ISS that walk along the joint points on the station. It…

"sanction" is one of the dumbest words on earth. "to give official approval" vs "impose a penalty".

There’s a few other self antonyms just in English. “Cleave” immediately comes to mind

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Sanctions do not matter to China. They will just have their nation state backed hackers hack into aerospace and defense contractors and steal their R&D instead. Thats the Chinese way and MO. Anything to further the Chinese economy. They have hacked nearly every F100 they needed to and steal hundreds of billions in IP annually already. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_intellectual_pr... - https://www.cnb…

Ah, so the chaos and lack of documentation in my company is really protection against chinese spies! Clever! On a more serious note, I find it quite unfair that Western conoany go into China to take advantage of loose labour laws and child labour, and then they complain when loose IP laws hit them. Like you knew what the deal was from the outset. Lastly not every society believes in the concept of intellectual proper…

I mean that's the thing, that wasn't the deal. No company, at all, would sign that agreement. Usually there is an nda, some kind of business agreement that says they won't steal your idea etc. and then they do. It's not like a company goes to China or another lower cost to manufacture country and signs an agreement to give them their business.

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Rocket engines are simpler than jet turbines, actually. It take a lot of material engineering to get something with both performance and economy. As for the rest, it’s just avionics that china hasn’t developed yet, and that really “just” software.

By that logic, scramjets are the simplest of all! But really, there’s an order of magnitude more engineering that goes into so many facets of rockets and rocket engines. On paper they’re similar, but the stresses and constraints are much, much higher.

Rocket engines point up and ignite the fuel. They don’t need air intakes, nor can they benefit from them. They don’t need to be reused (SpaceX’s strategy isn’t common). Rocket engines came a few decades before jet turbines for good reason. Heck, there is a good argument they were invented during the Tang or Song Dynasty in some kind of crude but representive form.

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"sanction" is one of the dumbest words on earth. "to give official approval" vs "impose a penalty".

So for those wondering why no US collaboration, you can blame republican octogenarian Frank Wolf for introducting the Wolf amendment prohibiting any and all NASA collaboration with china that isnt expressly sanctioned by the rest of the geriatrics in congress. he even managed to fuck up the 2013 Kepler Science Conference which resulted in a mass boycott after two chinese scientists were banned. We had every opportuni…

> that isnt expressly sanctioned by the rest of the geriatrics in congress

Interestingly, you inadvertently (?) demonstrated OPs comment by using the opposing definition from GP.

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The sanctions are pretty irrelevant when China has one of the best hacking groups in the world and every US corporation of relevance is strongly connected to the Internet.

Yeah, because they are only this advanced because they stole US technology. Chinese people can't be as intelligent as american.

Ah, it’s worse than that, we basically gave them their rocket and missile program via xenophobia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Xuesen
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