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Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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It wouldn't even have to be a language model, just some sort of meta program that handled the switchboarding, as it were, between subsystems would be enough. But my real point is just more narrow, you can't measure progress to artificial general intelligence with a list of tasks satisfied by artificial specific intelligence. You have to measure the generalness directly. And thats also why I don't think you'd have to…

It’s very difficult to come up with an objective metric or benchmark for general AI that can’t be gamed, or which won’t turn out to be disappointingly easy. It makes sense that most research would be in the direction of tasks which are easily quantifiable. More hazy benchmarks like the Turing test are possibly better but that one in particular isn’t so good unless it’s enhanced (I’d say a 1 hour conversation with an…

1. If it's too hard to come up with an objective benchmark for AGI then we should rethink what it is we're doing talking about progress toward that's goal.

2. You could also rework this list and say that an AI which can fulfill three tasks even badly is one step forwards. An AI which can fulfill three tasks from three separate categories is another step, etc. But I think it's a categorical mistake to count progress in specific AI as progress in general AI, there's not a very good reason to believe they are in a continuum with one another.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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That was an amazing read, thank you. Clearly lays the proposition that the first (if only) problem to solve is philosophical. Which brings us to the sorry state of academic philosophy today. A bunch of people who for the most part don’t know math, or a solid understanding of reality (including quantum mechanics). A group among which “anti-scientism” is a more and more popular topic for some reason. A group, which fro…

And yet, just like the majority of essays on AGI, that linked essay is a nice survey of history, but once that history is completed the author implies they are going to discuss the history of AGI construction attempts, but never does. The article transitions into personal theory and just peters out. Perhaps I'm short sighted, but until we have some implementation capable theory of comprehension - that universal abili…

Reminds me of semiotics.

The essay talks about the ability of generating explanations. It affirms explanations are the basic building block of GI.

But an important intermediate step is also the ability of generating meanings. The AGI would say: "This observation implies something else, it implies this". Without an explanation why, at first there's only the relation between signified and signifier.

Maybe a first step into AGI is to add a semiotic framework, before adding an explanatory framework.

Re: Road to Artificial General Intelligence

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> Example? Take just about anything from the reinforcement learning for ai agents domain - I'm particular to neuroevolution examples. Here's a simple one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb4LAT3cJfM No behaviors preprogrammed just a simple simulation environment with environmental constraints. > Humans are certainly not "hardwired" to prove mathematical statements, yet they do. Umm... yeah we are? We're just chemical…

> Umm... yeah we are? We're just chemical reactions and physics, there is no escaping that. Are we extremely sophisticated and complex, absolutely but that doesn't make us nondeterministic in any meaningful or special way. Every day we are confronted with rather obvious nondeterminism that seems to originate in consciousness and has no scientific explanation that I'm aware of. It is undeniable that physical reality i…

> I am not personally convinced that the decisions to get up and move are the deterministic result of physical laws that follow directly from the initial conditions at the Big Bang

Then that is a religious or philosophical conviction… not a scientific one. Believe whatever you want just don’t confuse the two.

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