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Well, to a point. It could be self-defeating if enough people quit. Worst case it could effectively end Twitter as an ongoing concern. I doubt that would happen, but ya never know.
Extremely doubtful. There is no shortage of people looking for work.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/05/1116036160/the-unemployment-r...
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In California, you don't need to construct a dismissal. It's an "at-will" employment state, which means you can be fired at any time without any reason or any reason (so long as if there's a reason, it's not because of a minor list of things.) In practice what this means is, in tech at least, you're thrown a nickle or two in exchange for an agreement, among other things, that you won't sure the company for violating…
You don't need to but companies would still much rather you walk away from an HR perspective. That "minor list of things" you allude to becomes very problematic for the company if someone even tries to claim it your underlying motivation was tied to it. So people willingly leaving because of a blanket decree removes that aspect entirely.
"I work at Google and they've told me to work 125 hours weeks". In that statement I provided just as much evidence for my claim as the article does their claim. In fact, there's more proof for my claim since it has a username tied to it, whereas the article just cites anonymous "according to internal sources". And yet, this is an article that how many thousands of people will read, and internalize into their model of…
I also suspect Musk is intentionally trolling the press at this point. He'll say random flippant things in meetings he know will get leaked. Those things don't happen. He trains his employees not to trust the news and gets to make a point about news trying to find an axe to grind.
I think people might be missing the point here. Elon probably wants higher turnover. These are very desirable jobs. People would bend over backwards to work at Twitter. Younger, cheaper people who have strong ideas of how to fix Twitter and would actually try to push these ideas. And these seats are currently filled with older, expensive employees who like things the way they are averse to things breaking. Either tha…
That's... horrifying, to be honest. Imagine the kind of young, cheap, starry-eyed people who think they know how to fix Twitter. Now, imagine a subgroup of these people who look at Musk's antics and decide "Oh this is the kind of company I'd love to work for."
Well, at least the eventual Netflix documentary is going to be legendary (assuming Netflix survives until then).
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Extremely doubtful. There is no shortage of people looking for work.
Except the lowest unemployment numbers in USA. That might be an issue. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/05/1116036160/the-unemployment-r...
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Treating people like what? Asking them to be productive and get shit done? Should Musk hand out hugs and participation trophies? Maybe little "You can do it!" stickers? There are 7500 employees at twitter and nobody seems to know what they are working on. The bureaucracy at Twitter was poison and the entire company had lost billions under the old management. The free lunch, wheatgrass smoothies, and safes paces are c…
This is not how you get people productive. This is how you grind them into burnt out husks of themselves and massively hurt company in the long run.
I think people might be missing the point here. Elon probably wants higher turnover. These are very desirable jobs. People would bend over backwards to work at Twitter. Younger, cheaper people who have strong ideas of how to fix Twitter and would actually try to push these ideas. And these seats are currently filled with older, expensive employees who like things the way they are averse to things breaking. Either tha…
It certainly is. But this is a shitty and stupid way to go about it. You ruin the lives and health of those who can't afford to give you the finger, for no actual benefit to anyone. (Say... they have family who needs their paycheck. Or they're on an H-1B.) Of the remainder, you chase away everyone who is competent and confident enough to work elsewhere.
These actions prima facie render one a bully and an idiot. All because Musk has a point to prove and wants to do it ASAP out of his own vanity.
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Especially when you look at how much journalists have gotten wrong the past few days. Ligma and Johnson ("They are visibly shaken"), mass layoffs before Nov 1st (nope), unbanned accounts would be back on by Monday (nope), Elon restored Ye's account (it was restored before the acquisition), Saudi Arabia bought into Twitter (they already were shareholders), etc...
NYT said they’ll have mass layoffs by Nov 1 because of stock compensation expiration. It didn’t happen and Musk refuted it outright. https://twitter.com/austen/status/1587458237414068224 My generous take on this: Media is incompetent and they need to do more due diligence. My cynical take on this: Media is losing its power and influence, this is the last ditch effort to smear opponents.
To their credit, the New York Times still does a little bit of real investigative journalism. But their standards are low and they tend to uncritically accept anything that matches their editorial bias.
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Based on what? Why wouldn’t that student go work somewhere with great WLB, more pay, and less stress? What does Musk’s Twitter have to offer?
I won't speak for others but I didn't give a crap about WLB in my 20s. Or job security. I didn't have to be in school anymore! If the job was fun and you got to work someplace cool that's just gravy - I was more than happy to cut into my video game time. But even to this day, working 60 hours a week for a place where you can arbitrary push code into production and see what happens IS ALWAYS going to be more fun and r…
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These are very desirable jobs. s/are/were
I understand your point, but if he even gets a fraction of the talent they have to turn down at SpaceX or Tesla he'll do just fine.
And it's still a large, complex, big-name Tech company; experience with working on problems at that scale could open doors later, regardless of who is calling the shots at the top.