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Re: Ask HN: “Contact Us” Pricing

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to have a way to scare salespeople straight by showing them how many sales they are losing because of this bad practice.

For the sales people, it rarely results in missed sales they care about. The ones who are super into this are almost always commission. If the company does less overall revenue (due to fewer overall sales), that is not a problem as long as they get more overall revenue (commission) due to the sales they land being ‘richer’. It’s a pretty classic owner/agent issue. The company should care, probably, but there are also…

Again I can vouche for seeing this in the physical industrial world. Sales only care about landing big deals with big margins, couldn't care less about many, many small fish. They wine and dine big clients and then build summer homes in the local hot spots off those projects commissions.

Re: Ask HN: “Contact Us” Pricing

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"Professional" subreddits, such as /r/MSP, as well as the Spiceworks community will have answers for some of those, depending on what kind of SaaS it is exactly. Ask, oftentimes (former) vendor reps or happy/unhappy customers lurk there and are happy to help you out, although their info might be outdated - but it may help for a first orientation.

(I, too, consider price-hiding the bane of my existence and wish I could get those days and months of lifetime back that I spend going through useless "demos" and "quick calls with an evangelist/key account manager/person who nopes out at the first technical question".)

Another strategy is that you prepare a long-ish text that you email to a - perferrably senior - sales contact at each company, ideally one that has been referred to you (again, the above-mentioned sources may help).

Just change the name and first line mentioning their product and outline that "due to internal restructuring" your company will decide yea or nay "on doing a PoC within the next three working days" (i.e. you don't have time to waste on demos), that you are already very familiar with their product in all details from an earlier job, in fact, you want to recommend to your CTO to buy it, and that you wish to receive nothing more than their current pricing for $detailedreqs asap. Be overspecific as to your reqs and specs, so they can't weasel out with "it depends".

You might need to go one or two rounds where they try and talk you into doing calls/demos regardless but they will often CC more senior or local reps whose contacts are not public and if you push back repeating what you said in your first email but shorter, they will usually relent, especially if there are competitors in the field and they're getting afraid that the lead may go cold.

This strategy works maybe about 78.3% of the time but will likely fail if the SaaS offering does require extensive and bespoke customisation for your organisation.

Good luck, I really don't envy you having to go through this, to me it used to be like running the gauntlet.

Re: Ask HN: “Contact Us” Pricing

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post #24

If they have a "personal/business" tier that has a price, just use that multiplied by the number of seats/licenses. It's ballpark close enough usually .

That’s what I would have ordinarily thought but I had a vendor who charged $10/user/mo per user for their “Team” tier but $180,000/year for their “Enterprise” tier with up to 150 users. Made no sense at all.

Re: Ask HN: “Contact Us” Pricing

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As you already know, this is typical for "enterprise" software due to the idea that potential customers will immediately click away if the price seems too high, so you need to let your customer know what value is in your software before they immediately walk away. One take-away from this is the old "if you have to ask, you can't afford it", and another is that they're automatically filtering out lower-value or price-…

I’m interested in this level of pricing. What are the breakpoints typically? Per-user, $-per-(record|gb|request), then ‘do what you want site wide’, is there any other aspects other than support / consulting times, etc?

Re: Ask HN: “Contact Us” Pricing

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As you already know, this is typical for "enterprise" software due to the idea that potential customers will immediately click away if the price seems too high, so you need to let your customer know what value is in your software before they immediately walk away. One take-away from this is the old "if you have to ask, you can't afford it", and another is that they're automatically filtering out lower-value or price-…

Having worked for an "enterprise" software biz, this is often because different customers can pay wildly different prices for the same software licenses. Often tailored less based on volume discounts or license type, and more around a customer's ability to pay.
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