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Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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Makes a ton of sense. Completely absurd for security guards and administrative assistants to have non-compete clauses. Just another way businesses were trying to reduce the willingness of employees to quit so that they can suppress wages.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

#3
IMHO, companies should have to compensate the employee for the period of the non-compete since they're still effectively working for them. Salary limits are okay, but don't really go far enough. If they want this it has a value and should be compensated for fairly.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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post #2

Makes a ton of sense. Completely absurd for security guards and administrative assistants to have non-compete clauses. Just another way businesses were trying to reduce the willingness of employees to quit so that they can suppress wages.

It jumped the shark a few years back when Jimmy Johns tried to force their "sandwich artists" to sign non-competes.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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My current contract has a lot of oddly specific noncompete stuff. Fortunately those clauses are mostly non enforceable in my country, unless your former employer still pays you a bunch of money every month. Those clauses are there to please investors.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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post #2

Makes a ton of sense. Completely absurd for security guards and administrative assistants to have non-compete clauses. Just another way businesses were trying to reduce the willingness of employees to quit so that they can suppress wages.

It jumped the shark a few years back when Jimmy Johns tried to force their "sandwich artists" to sign non-competes.

Does JJ refer to their employees as sandwich artists too? I thought that was just a Subway thing.

But yeah, beyond ridiculous, as if a JJ employee is going to leak some crazy trade secret to Subway or whoever.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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Where I live (Norway), these laws came thanks to unions. When I graduated, all developer jobs I was offered had a noncompete clause in the contract. These were wide and potentially career-altering if enforced, barring you from doing basically any kind of work for long stretches of time. All companies when pushed basically said "ohh, we seldom enforce them, only for upper management", but still they insisted on them being there.

Luckily my union, Tekna, helped squish most of these in 2015. They can no longer be general, they have to name specific companies and areas you can't work for if you ask. And pay full salary while enforced. So now they're basically non-existent for individual contributors / devs, except for maybe naming the main competitor if you work for a niche company.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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post #2

Makes a ton of sense. Completely absurd for security guards and administrative assistants to have non-compete clauses. Just another way businesses were trying to reduce the willingness of employees to quit so that they can suppress wages.

Admin assistants (like actual admin assistants) usually have access to full customer contact lists, and exposure to rather intimate details of the business and executives lives.

They’re definitely not comparable to security guards in that sense.

Re: Laws barring noncompete clauses spreading

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> Nobody likes being told when they’re about to hire someone that that person does not make enough to be eligible for a noncompete

Am I supposed to feel sorry because a business has to choose between either paying an employee more, or not restricting what that employee does after they leave? Let me get my tiny violin.

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