The list of exception filters in question -
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.tx...
AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
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Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#42I suspect most people who install adblock plus, aren't the kind of people who click on ads. So I suspect, even if (theoretically speaking) blocking ads was made impossible, the net impact would be much smaller than imagined. This will just impact those people who had it installed for them, and who happen to update. I doubt that will be the saviour of many small sites - if adblock plus was killing them in the first pl…
I know Google Adsense pays out a bit for "impressions", just displaying their ad on the page. I'm not sure how much revenue this really generates for very small sites though.
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#43Is there any risk of a bidding or lobbying war between advertising firms trying to coerce the list maintainers into marking their ads as "non-intrusive?"
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#44I'm sort of torn on this. On one hand I do want to support sites that I like and I know that for many this occurs through advertising. On the other hand, I am honestly confused by what the web looks like with ads. Its been so long since the very first thing I did on any new computer, vm, or even non-technically inclined friend's machine wasn't to install ad block. In many cases this wasn't really to not see the ads,…
But your initial decision was to turn off ads, in opposition to your desire to support sites you like, which led to your current notion of where things should be on the page.
> But your initial decision was to turn off ads, in opposition to your desire to support sites you like, which led to your current notion of where things should be on the page.
Basic sanity determines where things should appear on the page. Ads, by definition, try to draw your attention from useful content. If they provided the content you wanted, we wouldn't call them ads.
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#45It is unfortunate that many people commenting here didn't bother to RTFA. In particular, from the FAQ: Are you stupid? Nobody wants this! The results of our user survey say something different. Only 25% of the Adblock Plus users seem to be strictly against any advertising. They will disable this feature and that's fine. The other users replied that they would accept some kinds of advertising to help websites. Some us…
This comment says all I want to say in reply: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3342514
edit: This comment wasn't supposed to come over as rude, but given the downvotes and rereading it, I guess it probably does. Apologies.
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#46Beginning of the end. It's nice that the developers are giving users a choice, even if it's opt-out not opt-in. But AdBlock Plus is a tool to remove ads- that's it. And they're extremely good at it. The moment they become politicized and try to be "a tool to support small websites" or whatever nonsense, marks the beginning of the end.
I totally agree. It doesn't make any sense from a marketing/branding standpoint. The company is called "AdBlock" not "SomeAdsBlock".
Lots of people still have no clue about this company. How will new users perceive it moving forward?
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nearly every website would happily have a pay wall if advertising didn't exist. If the majority of people with internet access preferred to pay directly for every website they use, advertising wouldn't exist. But they don't, so it does.
I think many people would be happy to pay if the payment method was easier and less intrusive. If there was a method for sending a few cents for a pageview without a credit card or permanent account, I would use it , constantly. Such a payment method does not presently exist, paying for stuff is hard and there are fees and fixed costs severely limit making it easier.
> If there was a method for sending a few cents for a pageview without a credit card or permanent account, I would use it
What about https://flattr.com/ ? It seems to be exactly, what you're looking for but haven't really taken off.
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
But your initial decision was to turn off ads, in opposition to your desire to support sites you like, which led to your current notion of where things should be on the page.
> But your initial decision was to turn off ads, in opposition to your desire to support sites you like, which led to your current notion of where things should be on the page. Basic sanity determines where things should appear on the page. Ads, by definition, try to draw your attention from useful content. If they provided the content you wanted, we wouldn't call them ads.
Allow me to offer a different take on this. I spend a lot of time looking for companies who will fabricate printed circuit boards for my small business. So much time, in fact, that I often see ads for circuit board companies.
And these are actually welcome! I click through, check their prices, and sometimes in the course of doing so I find good deals on other related products (business cards, shipping materials, etc.) How else would I know where to find some of these things?
I'm not saying that all ads are good, but that I sometimes benefit from companies advertising to me for services which I am actively looking to purchase. Sometimes, when I don't hit an exact search query, ads are indeed content I want!
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#49I suspect most people who install adblock plus, aren't the kind of people who click on ads. So I suspect, even if (theoretically speaking) blocking ads was made impossible, the net impact would be much smaller than imagined. This will just impact those people who had it installed for them, and who happen to update. I doubt that will be the saviour of many small sites - if adblock plus was killing them in the first pl…
I know Google Adsense pays out a bit for "impressions", just displaying their ad on the page. I'm not sure how much revenue this really generates for very small sites though.
Google Adsense doesn't pay at all for impressions ... at least I haven't ever received money from them just for impressions.
Re: AdBlock Plus will soon allow "non-intrusive" ads by default
#50One of the "non-intrusive" ads on the whitelist are ads on sedo domain-squatter pages. That really says about all I need to know about how thoroughly he's vetted the "non-intrusiveness" of these ads.